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Xynic 04-10-2007 11:03 PM

I've got an s4, And I've fixed most of the quirks by now. However, it still handles a bit sloppy. I want to get the thing set up for drifting, as there are drifting events in my area. however, Since I'm still new to rx's and have mostly just been driving old classics with too much horsepower, I'm somehwhat in the dark when it comes to suspension and the like on cars like these.



Like I tell most people.. if you want something done right, you've got to do it right, which is why price really isnt an object when I say I want it to be good.



I've already got a jdm clip coming from a 90 tII that I'm putting in my s4.



Other then that.. what should I get to put on the car?

NotalesS 04-11-2007 12:05 AM

TEIN makes a good suspension setup for FC's

sen2two 04-11-2007 11:41 AM

i roll cage if your planning on doing any real drifting. but if your just starting and will be practicing in parking lots at low speeds. you'll be fine. seats and 4 point harness will help keep you still when going sideways. and some front and rear strut bars are nice and cheap and help kick out those rear wheels...



tokico illuminas with the complete Racing Beat suspension.



umm...other things maybe all your bushings, and hard mounts (tranny, motor, diff.)



theres much to go...but theres some cheaped ideas.

Xynic 04-11-2007 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by sen2two' post='867660' date='Apr 11 2007, 09:41 AM

i roll cage if your planning on doing any real drifting. but if your just starting and will be practicing in parking lots at low speeds. you'll be fine. seats and 4 point harness will help keep you still when going sideways. and some front and rear strut bars are nice and cheap and help kick out those rear wheels...



tokico illuminas with the complete Racing Beat suspension.



umm...other things maybe all your bushings, and hard mounts (tranny, motor, diff.)



theres much to go...but theres some cheaped ideas.





I'm in the process of leaning out the car, and putting an fd rearend in the car. It will be caged, and I've got to find a place I can practice at where I wont get ticketed too much.

sen2two 04-11-2007 02:26 PM

i accually have a FD LSD here im not using. 100 plus shipping let me know. oh...and just incase you probly already know but. it wount fit in the N/A housing. only TII.

Xynic 04-11-2007 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by sen2two' post='867698' date='Apr 11 2007, 12:26 PM

i accually have a FD LSD here im not using. 100 plus shipping let me know. oh...and just incase you probly already know but. it wount fit in the N/A housing. only TII.





I'm gathering parts for my tII swap. Or would it be easier to get a tII car and just build from there?

sen2two 04-11-2007 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by Xynic' post='867700' date='Apr 11 2007, 12:29 PM

I'm gathering parts for my tII swap. Or would it be easier to get a tII car and just build from there?





most likely. but finding a real TII around me is pretty hard. maybe its easier for you to get one. but just add the price for motor, tranny, axles, diff, driveshaft, 5 lug swap (if you dont already have it) and whatever else to make it work. or even if you could locate all these parts. what year and model 7 you have???



you have to see what you can get your hands on and how much your willing to fork out for it. maybe buying a TII is better. maybe worse...

Xynic 04-12-2007 01:43 AM


Originally Posted by sen2two' post='867705' date='Apr 11 2007, 12:44 PM

most likely. but finding a real TII around me is pretty hard. maybe its easier for you to get one. but just add the price for motor, tranny, axles, diff, driveshaft, 5 lug swap (if you dont already have it) and whatever else to make it work. or even if you could locate all these parts. what year and model 7 you have???



you have to see what you can get your hands on and how much your willing to fork out for it. maybe buying a TII is better. maybe worse...





Okay. I've got an 86. 5lug already. I've already have axles, tranny, motor, need driveshaft and I'm buying a rear diff from someone on here. The motor and tranny I'm getting is in an S5 clip, which will give me the hood and everything I need there to make it rhd.



I'm sure it'd be cheaper for me to get a TII but I still want a rhd car, so, in the long run a jdm clip will make me happier.



~ Matt

MJG 04-27-2007 06:38 AM

Coilovers, solid bushes, more steering lock, 0 - 1deg negative rear camber, 0deg rear toe, 3deg neg front camber, 0deg front toe (or 0.1 inwards), welded diff or a 2-way mechanical LSD like kaaz etc (not standard shite). Bucket seat, harness, cage, low profile tyres that you can get hold of easily and cheaply.



Would be best to practice on proper drift days rather than in parking lots. And parking lots are often just for the extreme basics not proper drifting - and if you are only learning the basics now then you shouldn't be worrying about tuning your car - a standard RX7 with a decent locking LSD or preferably welded/2way will drift better than most people in the first 6 months AT LEAST.



Don't know if yours is N/A, but if so then I can see you wanting more power after a little while and keep skinnyish tyres like 195s/205s at 50psi in the rear, 28-32psi in the front.

shpaintball 04-29-2007 02:08 PM

i see to have success with my N/A drifting things i feel the car needs to upgrade in order to slide are ....New sway bars , coilovers dont hurt , LSD with good fluid....find a way to cool her off better im using electric fan from a lincon town car w/ the fat radiator ...TIRES lol get some unsprung weight from lighter rims ....and lastly brake kit i perfer slotted rotors and endless pads, and replace stock exhaust as it overheats much to easy ( i like straight pipes thru and thru) ...those things listed are a must ....it also doesnt hurt to have a short shifter ...and a great driveline (light flywheel, sticky clutch) and if you decide to get rid of that N/A motor i may buy it cuz i think its funny to slide N/A

Leetheslacker 04-29-2007 10:54 PM

dpont forget





DTSS eliminators are key, dont want the toe ******* around while youre slidin.

shpaintball 05-01-2007 02:19 PM

o yea i still need to get mine on : (

rowtareh 05-01-2007 05:58 PM

Don't use an FD rear end, it's pointless when you can use a TII rear end. Supposedly the TII rear end is stronger than the FD's.

ZeroRX7 05-01-2007 10:25 PM

do not use an eletric fan it throws off the balance of the motor big time so stay with the stock fan.

Leetheslacker 05-01-2007 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroRX7' post='870171' date='May 1 2007, 11:25 PM

do not use an eletric fan it throws off the balance of the motor big time so stay with the stock fan.



throws off the balance of the motor? wtf are you talking about?



stock fan goes on the waterpump pully, and its perfectly fine without it.

jwteknix 05-02-2007 10:21 AM

wow this thread keeps getting better and better

shpaintball 05-02-2007 11:30 AM

o yea hes right the balance of the motor truely rest in the hands of the water pump and fan....those bastards foiled me i was wondering why my car seemed so unbalanced ....lol but not to be smart anymore ...does anyone have a spare NA motor ...i want i want...

Leetheslacker 05-02-2007 02:27 PM

i have a blown one

rowtareh 05-02-2007 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by Leetheslacker' post='870179' date='May 1 2007, 11:15 PM

throws off the balance of the motor? wtf are you talking about?



stock fan goes on the waterpump pully, and its perfectly fine without it.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif hmmm, who would've known that the fan shroud weighs like ten pounds, and waterpump weighs about 50. doh!!

ZeroRX7 05-02-2007 06:33 PM

oh ok i see how it is the fastest 13B in PR does not have a eletric fan and if u where to ask the person that did the motor why don't u go eletric not only with u get laughted out they will not talk to u. and yes i have talked to them i have family over there and the same person that does work on rotories over there flew down here and did my motor and his friends motor and both of them does not have a eletric fan b/c of the balance. don't believe me fly out to PR your self and ask around.

GreyGT-C 05-02-2007 08:43 PM

how the hell does the fan affect the balance of the engine any what so ever why doesnt the 3rd gen rx7 have an engine mounted fan yes my keyboard does not have any punctuation keys on it it seems to be a phenomenon lately around here hold on a sec i have to get myself another drink ok i'm back now but i still dont understand if i need to get rid of the electric fans on my 20B engine in my FD can anyone tell me if i need to do this or not i do know that if you mount an electric fan on your tires it will throw the balance of them off maybe something was lost in the translation from puerto rico to here i dont know but i am worried about this happening now but this thread is more about what to do to the car to set it up for drifting than it is about how to balance an engine so i will unhighjack this thread and go make myself another drink

Leetheslacker 05-02-2007 10:16 PM

i have an electric fan, oh noes, my drift balance is off!

MJG 05-03-2007 06:07 AM

A viscous fan does not always stay in line with the engine anyway you dickhead. It does not spin at 8200rpm when the engine spins at 8200rpm, it spins however fast the viscous coupling will allow. If it was even rigidly mounted at least the theory would almost wash. What an arsehole.


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