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CCKX13 02-27-2004 11:31 AM

In the past I have been looking for a True Dual setup for my exhaust because I think thats those are the best performance wise. So getting beyond that point I was wondering if anyone has ever built their own. Meaning either made their own true dual(TD) manifold and the cat-back minus the cat because I live in Mich and we do not have strict regulations on emisions. If anyone has done either of these I would greatly appreciate some plans or tips or where I could find a cheap kit because I have seen them before but were all costing over 1K.

So thanks!

Cort

rmaiersg 02-27-2004 11:43 AM

I don't think you'll find a cheap kit. There's a car for sale in Iowa City with a true dual setup. $800 w/ a blown engine.



I think it'll be difficult to pass emmissions without cats if possisble? Maybe someone should chime in that actually has this setup though.

CCKX13 02-27-2004 11:53 AM

Yea I know I was searching for a while and I was mostly just looking for a TD header. The rest I can piece together myself.

CCKX13 02-27-2004 11:54 AM

Also emisions are not a problem as long as the car isnt too loud.

sureshot 02-27-2004 12:10 PM

I went the cheap route:

I bought the Mazdatrix header kit ~$90 shipped (RB flange & mandrel bends).

Then had a local shop weld up the rest using the origonal rear flanges & tips.

The 2 sliencers, 2 bomb mufflers, pipe & labor to weld it all up came to ~$240.



Check out the link to the pictures & sound bite in my sig below.

sureshot 02-27-2004 12:25 PM

http://208.62.166.66/guest/pics/head...ap%20duals.JPG

sureshot 02-27-2004 12:31 PM

Here is a link to a video clip of that setup form the inside.



<2MB video clip>

mazdaspeed7 02-27-2004 12:58 PM

I did a similar thing as sureshot. It sounded like ****, and made nowhere near the power of my collected exhaust. What a waste. True duals have to be the most over-hyped and under performing exhaust I have ever seen.

Baldy 02-27-2004 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Feb 27 2004, 01:58 PM
I did a similar thing as sureshot. It sounded like ****, and made nowhere near the power of my collected exhaust. What a waste. True duals have to be the most over-hyped and under performing exhaust I have ever seen.

wow, I'm glad I went single, good to know I'm not missing anything.

sureshot 02-27-2004 02:56 PM

The sound depends much on the pre-silencers.

Play the sound link in my sig to see what I mean.



Yes- A properly tuned collected header is better, but a full dual is more forgiving if you're off a bit.



I happen to like the "growl" under load, of the alternating exhaust pulses from each tip.

rx7freddie 03-01-2004 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Feb 27 2004, 11:15 AM
wow, I'm glad I went single, good to know I'm not missing anything.

bs bs bs if u had the real true dauls u would love them . my friend has them and his car is fast for a na turbo and being convertible it really must give u that 40hp like mazdatrix says it does . its still bull **** if u ask me he if just did hes car turbo and not spend over a 1,000 for them things would be sweeter .

Baldy 03-01-2004 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by rx7freddie' date='Mar 1 2004, 11:05 AM
bs bs bs if u had the real true dauls u would love them . my friend has them and his car is fast for a na turbo and being convertible it really must give u that 40hp like mazdatrix says it does . its still bull **** if u ask me he if just did hes car turbo and not spend over a 1,000 for them things would be sweeter .

could anyone translate this for me please?

rx7freddie 03-01-2004 10:15 AM

lol i just woke up . anyway i was saying that the real true dauls are nice and u can feel the power from them .

TyresmokinRx7 03-01-2004 10:15 AM

I got nothing.

isamu 03-01-2004 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by Baldy' date='Mar 1 2004, 04:07 PM
could anyone translate this for me please?

"bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. If you spent a **** load of money on your exhaust you would believe it was cool even if it wasn't. My friend has a convertable with Mazdatrix true duals, and it seems fast for a normally aspirited engine (turbo inserted too soon.). The outrageous claims of 40hp gains from Mazdatrix may not be totally unwarranted. In my opinion putting the 1000.00 or so bucks towards a turbo swap or custom turbo configuration will net better gains in the long run."



That whats I got when I read it lol, just kidding man. Seriously though I have the Mazdatrix setup on my car minus the fart cans on back. It made a definite power increase over stock, but it amplified the engine sound by about a 100 times.

i.didnt.do.it 03-01-2004 10:36 AM

lmfao...



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