Hello everyone...



I have only seen a few TRUST/Greddy FMIC conversion kits for the turbo II FC...and they are HORRENDOUSLY EXPENSIVE!!! On ebay, i have found some very nice looking, very large intercoolers. If i was to purchase a generic FMIC...how difficult is finding piping or having them made? Could i just buy aluminum piping and have a shop bend it to fit???



someone HELP ME!!!



Thanks a lot



-Jeff

Yes, you can buy the core and then have a shop bend some piping for you..HOWEVER, I'd buy a good core such as spearco, apexi or xs engineering...don't skimp on intercooling...

yeah make sure you look at core thickness, YOu might see some intercooler on ebay for cheap and it looks huge, but might only be a inch and a half thick with maybe 2 inch inlet and outlet. All the companies rotaryman said are great, but apexi is a little more rare than spearco and xs when searchin ebay.

by the time you make the pipes, buy the core and the ic couplers, and make a throttle body adaptor you are like $100 away from a greddy kit.



that being said i dont have a complete kit on my car, just the greddy core

I was talking with a friend about this tonight we might get a mandrel bender. If we do a fmic kit is the first thing I am going to work on.

i've always been told it'd probably be around the area of 500-600 for a custom setup.



Besides, with our cars just about anything is gonna be ebtter than the stock TMIC.

HMM, you and your friends going to chip in a few thousand apiece to buy a mandrel bender? uh-huh

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There not cheap thats for sure!!!

My friend's got one at his shop, they use it to make their own custom exhausts and stuff ... Is that what you guys are talking about? If you feel like coming up to Montreal I guess he would let you use it ...









for a small fee of course LOL

If you dont have access to a tig your kinda at the mercy of their prices. But if you do you can make a way better kit for less than half of the price. Most kits have miles of pipe and screwy angles to be able to use on a stock setup. I have a griffin core in mine and am very happy. Paid $150 for the core.



GregW

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You do realize that those are very, very expensive right? Yout have to buy separte dies for each pipe diameter, wall thickness and bend radi.... etc



Really the GReddy kit isn't *that* expensive. A good core assembly will run $300-$400 IMO and then the throttle body inlet is ~$100. So that leaves you with with $300-$400 for the tubing, whic hwill run our really quick once you start actualy buyign the tubing and welding etc.



That said, if you are into fabrication an IC is a great way to show your skills. I'll be selling my GReddy IC kit shorly infavor of my newer, better, custom setup.



-Chris

Plus the dies are only good for so many bends. Your friend probably has a generic "crush" bender which is NOT a Mandrel bender by any means

If you're talking about the one that belongs to my friend's dad at the garage ...



I just spoke to him and he told me it's a CNC Machine ... Still dunno what that means but whatever LOL https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

you can buy u-bends of piping, instead of bending your own. you'd have to weldl them together, though.

I would watch out for some of the cheap ebay intercooler cores and intercoolers. A good friend of mine owns a shop and I hang out there more than I should. I have seen a few turbo Hondas go across the dyno with the cheap intercooler and loose 30 whp on the 2nd pull. Needless to say they end up buying better intercooler after the day is out.



I personally I have spearco intercooler (which I gave a arm and leg for) and I like it. Precision turbo www.precisionte.com has some really nice intercoolers for a good price. I have personally seen them on cars that make great power and don't heat heat soak after the first pull on the dyno.

that's the answer to your prayers right there.



You can go to www.burnsstainless.com Get some t-6061 aluminum 2 1/2" piping. 3 u-bends, and 1 3 or 4 foot section of pipe. Any skilled mechanic can mate this combo up, cut and weld them and whala. Lookes every bit as good as the pre-mandrel bent stuff.



Be prepared to spend about 30 bucks for each u bend tho. 6061 is expensive ****.

Yes I understand that they are pretty expensive.

No it isn't a crush type I have seen the final product and it is a smooth bend all the way through.



The guy who has the bender wasn't making money cause he didn't have the time to devote fully to the bending. Like I said we were just talking about.