i happened to have one apart today and so i have pics of bad ones



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see how the rubber bit has seperated from the linky bit? these are dead and need to be replaced

do you think the ones from racing beat are better then the stock ones?

i would think so, i havent gotten to the point where ive replaced any, but when i do i'm prolly just gonna get the rb ones

I have the RB ones https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683329.gif



I want to replace those rear camber links too, but those are like $60 a piece from mazda https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

i have RB ones....theyre cool and nice looking



my RB sways will be here monday or something.....fc3s.org = slow shipping... frown face





and mazdatrix = slower shipping ... = frowner face

I put ES bushings in the stock links. $15 I think

thats a good idea

racing beat is the way to go. thats what i use and they work just fine.

they don't fit S5 cars though.

they dont fit the front control arm .... i put 4 washers in each control arm..... 2 on each side of the link...fits fine

Yeah, I love their shipping. I paid extra to get 2 day shipping...I got it in 2 days, plus the week it took them to send it.

heh...i ordered on the 3rd....they sent it out on the 11th

The RB ones are adjustable and stronger than stock but you dont really need that. Adjusting sway bars is usually one of the last suspension tweaks you'd do for road racing, etc. And bending the stock links shouldnt happen even with racing. I'm a cheap ass but the $15 urethane bushings work fine.

I don't know about that...

I was lucky to have my two-position Suspension Techniques front bar, as with the "loose" setting my car oversteered! I was lucky I was able to switch positions, as when I moved the sway bar links to the "stiffer" position the FC finally got neutral. I think an adjustable anti-sway bar gives you the ability to adjust for your vehicle, as not all cars react differently.



I have never seen end links break, but I've broken the anti-sway bar mount bolts in the center...twice. My ST front bar is one of the bigger bars available for the FC, and I've seen replaced those bolts with 10.9 high strength stuff, and they haven't broken since.







-Ted

I understand what you're saying about adjusting the attachment point of the sway bar like the ST ones. These RB links adjust tension on the end of the bars which is a last step tweak. What I'm saying is that even changing sway bars should be one of the last things you do to your ride after you find the right spring/shock or coilover set up, wheels, tires and alignment settings. For example, I settled on 400# springs in the back of one of my FWD cars.. car had too much understeer still, took out front sway and upgraded rear, added more negative front camber and some toe out... car was almost neutral then.

i dont get it



sways and springs and shocks alll do different jobs



whats the matter in replacing them.....







i guess i did my suspension "backwards" then... i put on endlinks then sway bars...and still have stock coil setup and damping setup



its not that theres "steps" to it... its that my car had enormous body roll and had understeer when going to turning hard on autox ... so i got these, to eliminate that



its all preference....when you know about suspension and how they really work. and you use it applied to racing, theres no steps, it goes as what you need to improve your times

well sometimes when the car is old you upgrade whats broken first.

They all do different jobs but work together for the suspension. All I'm saying is that if you only use your car for street, why would you get sway bars and adjustable end links with stock springs/shocks and street tires? Your shocks/springs and tires do 90% of the job. If your **** is worn out, anything you replace will make the car handle better.