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What kind of use are you putting the car to? Different setups for different cars, and if you are goverened by a sanctioning body.
For Street use I like KYB AGX's with a Quality spring |
Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' post='790887' date='Dec 30 2005, 12:21 PM
What kind of use are you putting the car to? Different setups for different cars, and if you are goverened by a sanctioning body. For Street use I like KYB AGX's with a Quality spring Thats what i have with Eiback Pro Kit for springs. However, i need to had a sway bar and some polyurethane bushings |
yeah it depends on budget, and use, and if you want bling
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i love the jic majic flt -a2 shocks/springs with racing beat sway bars
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um........tokico's illunimas 5way front 8 way back.....kyb agx 5 way front 8 way back also
i have hks springs on mine |
More of a coilover input. Anyone running Tiens?
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Originally Posted by Edgar MSL' post='791433' date='Jan 1 2006, 09:36 PM
More of a coilover input. Anyone running Tiens? what are you gonna use it for? teins are good for the bling, but for any serious track use koni's and ground control coilovers are better. |
Originally Posted by Edgar MSL' post='791433
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what are you gonna use it for? teins are good for the bling, but for any serious track use koni's and ground control coilovers are better.
go with Cusco, ZEAL or Silkroad..maybe even FEED coilovers. that is, of course..if you're willing to spend the big bucks on them. on another note.. my car currently has Tokico Illumina 5-way adj. w/ Eibach pro-kit i HATE my setup. the springs are way too soft. way too damn soft. |
Originally Posted by just-some-guy' post='792308' date='Jan 5 2006, 05:36 PM
i wouldn't mind running Teins. but then...they're not all that great. i've driven several different cars with Teins on them. i say for serious track use. go with Cusco, ZEAL or Silkroad..maybe even FEED coilovers. that is, of course..if you're willing to spend the big bucks on them. on another note.. my car currently has Tokico Illumina 5-way adj. w/ Eibach pro-kit i HATE my setup. the springs are way too soft. way too damn soft. I have cusco coilovers on my FC, and i think for "serious track use" you'd want JRZ or penske coilovers. |
Originally Posted by just-some-guy' post='792308' date='Jan 5 2006, 05:36 PM
i say for serious track use. go with Cusco, ZEAL or Silkroad..maybe even FEED coilovers. that is, of course..if you're willing to spend the big bucks on them. on another note.. most of those jdm coilovers arent all that great for serious racing, the dampers fade and, they arent rebuildable either. so for the money you're really better off with ground control/koni's. if you're seriously racing you will break stuff, we bend camber plates (1/4" steel!) |
I got Koni Yellows, Ground Control Coilover, and Tein springs. Haven't driven with them yet so I shall see in the summer.
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I run ground control camber plates the aluminum ones and bilteins from ISC racing with 400 and 250 lbs springs. Very nice setup. No fade. Not even during race conditions. However I think they are under damped for rebound a bit the car seems to bounce a bit on the street.
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Wow, from this thread you would think there werent any good suspentions at all.
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Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='792818' date='Jan 8 2006, 09:07 AM
Wow, from this thread you would think there werent any good suspentions at all. lol, we ran agx's with 320/220 springs on the race car for years, with the k2 camber plates, works great. recently upped the spring rate to 450? 350? and that required koni's. blue tokiko's with stock springs are good. and illuminas with eibachs are good too. |
anyone have any experience with the suspension upgrade racing beat is selling?
I saw one on their website and it looked rather complete but for a set of new shocks |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='792824' date='Jan 8 2006, 01:14 PM
blue tokiko's with stock springs are good. |
Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='793068' date='Jan 9 2006, 03:36 PM
Arent the oems tokiko struts? The GTUs I stripped had tokikos that looked stock. Dunno if its replacements. yeah they are either kyb or tokiko stock, theres only like 4 shock manufacturers in japan |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='793082' date='Jan 9 2006, 07:55 PM
yeah they are either kyb or tokiko stock, theres only like 4 shock manufacturers in japan |
Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='793174' date='Jan 10 2006, 05:41 AM
I wonder if its the same specs as the tokiko "blues" it prolly is by now. all the factory numbers superceed to 2, aas and not aas |
Tein Flex here. Ride height adjustment seperate from spring rate adjustment. In other words they are a true coil over. I have about 4k on them which is pretty much all pounding on the car. I have used a few different wheel setups and like the fact that I can raise and lower the car and not mess with the spring rate.
I absolutely love them. Everyone who has driven the car gives them a thumbs up. On a side note *real* suspension starts at about $3000. Thats bottom of the barrel. That would be taking the flex and adding rebound adjustment as well as compression not to mention a larger diamater pistion and remote resivors. Ive driven quite a few cars with stiffer springs and a good set of adjustible shocks. They stick to the road quite nicely. GregW |
Not sure what "real" suspension means...I'm pretty any car rolling off the assembly line has "real" suspension.. I mean, I haven't seen anybody on the side of the road because their "fake" suspension broke because the paper mache strut mount gave out....
Anyways... my opinion is that if you have a car that you want to beef up the suspension on, your going to go through a lot of trial and error to find what you really want. As far as shocks go, I like the Tokico's and the Koni's. Koni's offer a better rebound on the street(at least that what it feels like to me). Koni's however are harder to install compared to Tokico's. We've put tokico's on many cars, I currently have them on my eclipse that are using a set of Tanabe GP springs. Great ride quality. I've used Intrax and Eibach as well on other cars. The intrax were a little cheaper than the Eibachs, but performed equally..if not a LITTLE better then the sportlines (prokit is good, but didn't offer the drop I needed for my wheel/tire setup). For coilovers, after much debate, I'm going w/ the HKS Hypermax II. I've read a lot of good things about them and their specs seem to be on par with what I need. Ground controls are an awesome setup for weekend autox-ing. Our SM2 class Miata is currently running Tein FLEX coilovers with good success. Running #1 in his class and about 1.5s behind the EVOs! There are a lot of good setups, there are even more "not so good" setups. It'll be up to what you want, how much you can spend, and your own driving skills/preference to find out what you like. Side note *don't buy adjustable sway bars until later* adjustable sway bars are the last part i worry about when doing suspension. You can upgrade them to thicker, but when you've maxed out your suspension, and need that little edge..than go adjustable, but only then, lol.... |
Originally Posted by One320B' post='793255' date='Jan 10 2006, 12:58 PM
Not sure what "real" suspension means...I'm pretty any car rolling off the assembly line has "real" suspension.. I mean, I haven't seen anybody on the side of the road because their "fake" suspension broke because the paper mache strut mount gave out.... I meant somethin along the lines of these. http://www.proflex.be/engframeset.html http://www.ohlins.com/car_36hmrc.shtml http://www.intechrity.com.au/dms/default.asp?id=37 http://www.kw-suspension.com/en/30_Product...ant_3/index.php |
That was better than the term "real"
BTW, Kei Office offers coilovers for the FC3S now as well... the japanese drifteres/racers alike rave about them, but I'm not sure if they are hype or not since its the "Drift King's" line of coilovers... worth looking into though. I read the specs on the XT/alpha line they have and it seems worthy, a good bit of cash though over the HypermaxIIs.. |
Proflex was once a bike company.
The KW suspension looks promising though. Not so sure about Tein. Never found them very special for the incredibly high price they sell at |
i'd suggest something which can be rebuilt in the US.
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Originally Posted by djgiantrobot' post='793412' date='Jan 11 2006, 07:34 AM
i'd suggest something which can be rebuilt in the US. thats important! |
It is hard to find a rebuilder for the jap coilovers here in the US...
Kei Office is opening an office here stateside supposedly that will be offering rebuilds on their coilovers. Currently, you can send them off to be rebuilt...but will take two weeks to get back on the road. |
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