Anybody has any experience with superchargers (blowers). I've heard that on a NA, we could get a good result with a streetable blower and not too many mods except for the fuel and exhaust systems.



I'm actually looking for good infos on the subject and see if what I've heard is true. What are the pros and cons, turbocharger or supercharger?

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I seem to remember someone on here that has done it. Atkins rotary sells a kit for the 12A's and I was looking into a Paxton staged system but that'll be a long long time from now.



Pros would be low end boost, a more controlled boost (in some cases) and a more consistant power curve.



Cons are complexity (Mounting, belts...) , who's done it and fuel delivery.

On the Travis Shrey's web site, they show how to install the Paxton/Nelson kit but they don't give us any feedbacks on the result. I've also read about some good and bad experiences on this kit. I think it's not available anymore.



Travis Shrey's homepage

unless you have alot of money invested in your N/A i would suggest buying a TII it will be cheaper and better in the long run https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

I don't really have alot of money invested in but alot of time to keep it in good shape for 12 years now. But you say better in the long run, you mean that a supercharger is less reliable than a turbo? About the price, what should I expect to pay for a good kit if I do it by myself?

I don't really have alot of money invested in but alot of time to keep it in good shape for 12 years now. But you say better in the long run, you mean that a supercharger is less reliable than a turbo? About the price, what should I expect to pay for a good kit if I do it by myself?[/quote]

The supercharger kit is about $3500.

I don't really have alot of money invested in but alot of time to keep it in good shape for 12 years now. But you say better in the long run, you mean that a supercharger is less reliable than a turbo? About the price, what should I expect to pay for a good kit if I do it by myself?[/quote]

i mean your gonna spend like $5000 to make the supercharger work..... you will never get that money back out of the car :(

Well, from what I heard, since those kits are no longer manufactured for the 2nd gen...you wont have much in the means of tech support unless you talk w/ those who have it, and that number is small. Your better off just going w/ a turbo kit(custom built). I'm a strong believer that a turbo kit can be made for the NA as long as you run low boost....I've seen/heard/read about at least 4 people who have done it, and even considered it myself before going w/ a jspec swap...

I don't really have alot of money invested in but alot of time to keep it in good shape for 12 years now. But you say better in the long run, you mean that a supercharger is less reliable than a turbo? About the price, what should I expect to pay for a good kit if I do it by myself?[/quote]

i mean your gonna spend like $5000 to make the supercharger work..... you will never get that money back out of the car :([/quote]

I like turbos. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...

I've heard of some people running 20+ PSI on turbo motors with NA rotors. They've had good results.

I don't really have alot of money invested in but alot of time to keep it in good shape for 12 years now. But you say better in the long run, you mean that a supercharger is less reliable than a turbo? About the price, what should I expect to pay for a good kit if I do it by myself?[/quote]

i mean your gonna spend like $5000 to make the supercharger work..... you will never get that money back out of the car :([/quote]

I like turbos. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...[/quote]

my turbo is shot on the TII. i'm working on getting a turbo kit for it. T04E HERE I COME. i refuse to put another stock turbo on the car. this will be turbo # 3 in 5000 miles !!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I know what you mean. But on the hand, I don't know anybody who has made money out of a street car. I think the earning is to enjoy the fun we get from the result, don't you think?... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...

Yeah, I know what you mean. But on the hand, I don't know anybody who has made money out of a street car. I think the earning is to enjoy the fun we get from the result, don't you think?... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...[/quote]

just be prepared....... i have $30k dumped into my FD and it doesn't even move yet!

Yeah, I know what you mean. But on the hand, I don't know anybody who has made money out of a street car. I think the earning is to enjoy the fun we get from the result, don't you think?... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...[/quote]

Yes, the fun and satisfaction is worth it.

I really appreciate your comments, guys. That's why I posted on the subject. The big advantage of the supercharger is I think the quicker response at low rpm and the main drawback would be the complexity to find infos to get it work and fine tuning.

What kit were you talking about here? Is the Paxton kit or something like that? Because I believe the Paxton's kit is not available anymore, is this true?

What kit were you talking about here? Is the Paxton kit or something like that? Because I believe the Paxton's kit is not available anymore, is this true?[/quote]

Yeah, the Nelson/Paxton setup. I don't know if it is still available. superchargedrex was supposed to be putting together a kit for about $2K.

What kit were you talking about here? Is the Paxton kit or something like that? Because I believe the Paxton's kit is not available anymore, is this true?[/quote]

Yeah, the Nelson/Paxton setup. I don't know if it is still available. superchargedrex was supposed to be putting together a kit for about $2K.[/quote]

Here's his web page:

http://www.geocities.com/boatseason

What kit were you talking about here? Is the Paxton kit or something like that? Because I believe the Paxton's kit is not available anymore, is this true?[/quote]

Yeah, the Nelson/Paxton setup. I don't know if it is still available. superchargedrex was supposed to be putting together a kit for about $2K.[/quote]

Thanks Ace, I'll try to find some informations on that kit. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

What kit were you talking about here? Is the Paxton kit or something like that? Because I believe the Paxton's kit is not available anymore, is this true?[/quote]

Yeah, the Nelson/Paxton setup. I don't know if it is still available. superchargedrex was supposed to be putting together a kit for about $2K.[/quote]

Thanks Ace, I'll try to find some informations on that kit. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png[/quote]

Try e-mailing him. He's been working on it for quite a while. So he should have something by now.

Ok so I e-mailed him yesterday. He answered back to me today...he's quick! :bigok:



He told me that he's not working on putting together any supercharger kit but he has put together a parts/vendor list.



He's also scanned in a copy of his original instructions and created a webpage with a few pictures that will be beneficial.

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I asked some more questions after looking at those documents, so I'll know more about it tomorrow evening hopefully but so far so good. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

The Camden Superchargers look pretty cool to me, but they are expensive. By the time you buy the super charger and then an aftermarket carb, fuel stuff etc, it is a bit pricey, well for me anyways. But if you had any questions about supercharging your 7, you could also call or email Dave at Atkins, I am sure he would help you out.

Ok so I e-mailed him yesterday. He answered back to me today...he's quick! :bigok:



He told me that he's not working on putting together any supercharger kit but he has put together a parts/vendor list.



He's also scanned in a copy of his original instructions and created a webpage with a few pictures that will be beneficial.

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I asked some more questions after looking at those documents, so I'll know more about it tomorrow evening hopefully but so far so good. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

That sounds good. You should be able to make your own kit pretty easily. Maybe you could try using a Vortech supercharger instead of a Paxton.

The Camden Superchargers are interesting but I don't like the idea of going back to carbs and as you just said, it's expensive.

Ok so I e-mailed him yesterday. He answered back to me today...he's quick! :bigok:



He told me that he's not working on putting together any supercharger kit but he has put together a parts/vendor list.



He's also scanned in a copy of his original instructions and created a webpage with a few pictures that will be beneficial.

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

I asked some more questions after looking at those documents, so I'll know more about it tomorrow evening hopefully but so far so good. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

That sounds good. You should be able to make your own kit pretty easily. Maybe you could try using a Vortech supercharger instead of a Paxton.[/quote]

Yeah, I was looking for someone who could have tried a Vortech but found nothing. I made an information request directly to Vortech by e-mail but no answer so far. Vortech's superchargers seem actually of better construction, if I judge from what I've read. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Camden Sells a 7inch kit for the 13B for fuel injection for 3400

I have been contemplating a Roots-type supercharger setup for a few months on my car. From my experience, centrifugal superchargers have poor boost control and are very "peaky". A roots supercharger get on boost off idle and stays there until redline. The trade off is they only make a maximum boost of about 5-8 psi before they overspeed.

But the Camden is a roots type and they said you can get up to 12psi.