I have just removed the sunroof from my "new" T2. I was wondering if anyone has left the sunroof off and had the hole welded shut. This car is being setup up mainly for track days. I will never use the sunroof and it's f#*king heavy.



If you have, how much did it cost you and do you regret your decision?



Old Sunroof



http://www.1stoptionmtg.com/rx7/t2sunroofsm.jpg



Current



http://www.1stoptionmtg.com/rx7/t2nosunroofsm.jpg

my sunroof has never worked. it rusted it self closed. i must ask though. how did you get that out??!?! i've tried everything! even manuvering my body and pushing with my legs to get it out, not even that worked.





I do have an idea about the sunroof.. and i really think it would work... ever ridden in a supra? know how hard that roof is to get off? (targa) well design something similar with our sunroof with a latch type thing on all four corners holding it on the inside. if you want it off unclip the latches and take it off (somewhat like a targa)



i dunno, it's just a thought. or you could have a shop make a peice of lexan/plexi to go there instead of the heavy metal itself. also just a though.



-Markus

It took some effort, but it wasn't too bad.



1) Take down all the moldings, sun visors, laundry hangers, and lights/rear view mirror.



2) Remove headliner



3) Bang the **** out of all four corners of the sunroof from the bottom



4) Carefully take a screwdriver and pry away rusted and painted over gasket from body



5) Repeat step three



6) Remove all bolts from mounting brackets



7) Remove drain lines



8) Unscrew alll height adjustment bolts (nothing holding the sunroof on at this point except for rust and corrosion)



9) Get one hand underneath the front of the sunroof and bang from the top (carefully)



10) Repeat on other side, front should come down eventually



11) Work sunroof forward and down



12) The entire unit should pop out after some negotiating



I then cleaned the area of the body that is normally hidden by the sunroof. All kinds of dirt and crap caked on. Not too difficult. Be carefull when the sunroof comes down. It is awkward and slightly heavy. Let me know if you have any other questions or if I missed anything.

That sounds interesting. Would just have to figure out how to do it without the car looking ghetto and have no leaks. I'd have to tint it also. Something to think about.

The replacement sunroof is in. It took parts from three different sunroofs to make a complete working one. The only problem is that it's white. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683698.gif



I'm going to pull it back off and primer it for now.



http://www.1stoptionmtg.com/rx7/t2whitesunroofsm.jpg

nice work.. i am going to remove my sunroof. looks wise it's great, no rust or damage.. but it's just never worked. i've checked the gears and the motor, i can hear the motor CLICK, but nothing moves. stuck an allen wrench in the manual hole and stripped the gears out my self. In my previous post. about the supra targa top... hears another example of what i am going to try to do.. : ever been in a 944 porsche? the roof tilts up, but is also completly removable with a couple of latches. I am going to design a latch system (requires brain power) that way when i want the roof open just unlatch it and put it in the back.. that would be kinda sweet. half Targa/sunroof mod. i'll let you know.



-Markus

theres a guy on the evil forum that had it welded shut, and filled. i kinda want to do that to mine when the time comes



mike

Mine never had a sunroof. neener neener...

just cut it off

Since you have a new sunroof in.. why not fix it so it can be used? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

i hate looking at it, sunroofs are evil



mike

The new sunroof that I put in is working fine. I just don't ever use them. I am considering welding it closed since this car is being setup as a track car. Less weight and no need to be continually f*#king with it. The sunroofs on both of my FC's have been a pain in the ass.

I want to learn how to work with lead so I can fill things in the

old fashioned way.

BASTARD!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

Just don't eat it.



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Ill eat that **** on white bread, I dont care

I need my crust cut off.

damn hardcore!



mike

I love my glass sunroof but the only thing that sucks is that it used to leak so the carpet needs to be replaced. And while im on the subject, does anyone know a site on the internet where I can purchase carpet for my T2?

I took mine out removed all the tracks motors cut out the inner structure rivited it in on the inside

with 4 aluminium brackets sealed it from the inside with silicone.

Dave

Any pictures?

This motivates me. I wanted to do it on my old FC. Maybe I'll do it on this one. How much did you get out of the whole sunroof (weight)?

I want to learn how to work with lead so I can fill things in the

old fashioned way. [/quote]

that would be cool, it supposedly is better



mike

Yeah lead work is nice.. cuz you can keep the car all metal baby.. There is a porsche guy in my Body Shop class and he was telling me that people used to praise how perfect the gaps on the old hand built porsche speedsters would be.. but in reality the assembly line guys would just stick a thin piece of wood in the gap which was way off and fill the rest with lead, then the remove the wood and it would look like a perfect gap..

Did that make sense?

Just cut and rivet a piece of lexan in there with some clear silicone to seal.. worked great for me on a prev race car project except it was hot as hell since I didn't tint the bitch.

yeah, they like to rig handbuilt cars =) . they shoed some porsche thing on tv and they had a guy bench press the motors in the cars in the 50's



mike

Yeah the porsche guy was telling me about stufflike that too.. he said they had a buff germad due on a creeper, they would put the tranny on his chest then he would slide under and lift it into place.. heheh..

I want to learn how to work with lead so I can fill things in the

old fashioned way. [/quote]

that would be cool, it supposedly is better



mike [/quote]

thats the way they used to do it, anything that was around

before they came up with all these low volotile organic compound

laws was good. The best paint jobs in the world were the old laquer paint

jobs, hell they even rubbed them out by hand. Nowadays they use

fancy glue for panel bonding, and 3M admits to shifting on panel bonds

such as 1/4 panels. People never had problems with lead shifting, or rusting for that matter.



Leaded gas was the best too, sure we might all be growing fins out

of our backs and dying of lead poisoning, but at least our cars will

look and run good!

some previous owner did that on my project '79. I'd say you would definately want to tint it super dark, cause it looks ghetto as hell on my car.

Does the roof flex enough to be a problem? Im tempted to fiberglass a lexan panel in place of the sunroof on my TII, but I am worried the roof will flex and it will crack the fiberglass.

this idea will crack, the shifting of the panel alone will cause it

to crack.



Unless you dont care about fixing the cracks every year or so

Not to mention it wont end up being that much lighter by the time you

glass and fair it in.

Anybody else want to answer my question without beign a smartass?

how the **** was that response a wise crack?



you said you wanted to glass in a piece of lexan and if it

would be a problem, I answered.

that is just rob, he is not a smart ass, thats just him, very smart guy too

ROFLMAO, "it will look phat as hell"

I should have said that, maybe then he wouldnt think I was a wise ass.

AND he has a point..

i dunno how that was a smartass remark rob. i was thinking the same thing, but my ass isnt as smart. loud though



mike

i think the sunroof is one of the greatest things on my car.