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ColinRX7 04-08-2004 12:06 PM

Am I reading the FSM right? heat up the ring and slide it off? That's all dandy, but is there no guides or anything to keep the ring straight?



I'm not worried too much about removal, but when I reinstall it, how the **** am I suppost to make sure it's straight and in the right position?

TheCamel 04-08-2004 12:23 PM

This is fun...



I used to do this with Ford ring gears on their flywheels.



Heat the ring gear with a torch to a cherry red and beat it off. Thats the easy part.



Now here is the trick to getting it on without much hassle. If you have a deep freeze freezer you put the flywheel in it overnight or at least 8hrs, put the ring gear in the oven @ 400°F for about 30 mins. Take the flywheel out of the freezer and place it flat on the table, take the ring gear out of the oven and set it in place. It will either fall right in place, or require a little bit of force with a small hammer. once it has fallen into the flywheel all you have to do is knock it down to its flush point with a brass drift. if you attempt this at ambient temperature, you will curse, swear beat and ruin the new ring gear trying to get it on.



Good luck

Cheers! 04-08-2004 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Apr 8 2004, 12:06 PM
Am I reading the FSM right? heat up the ring and slide it off? That's all dandy, but is there no guides or anything to keep the ring straight?



I'm not worried too much about removal, but when I reinstall it, how the **** am I suppost to make sure it's straight and in the right position?

Yes, but there are two thing u need to know.



One, you cant simply use a propane torch, you need an oxyacetylene torch.



Two, when you beat the ring gear off when it red hot most likely that ring gear will be no good anymore because it would've deformed by the time it cooled back down.



If you do not have one, and are worried about two i would try to find a good used flywheel instead.



When you reinstall the ring gear you can use a two true flat edge clamped down to the flywheel, when you position the ring gear back on, it will sit flat and once the ring gear heats up to the temp of the flywheel all is well.



If you have steady hands ofcourse

1Revvin7 04-08-2004 02:52 PM

just get used flywheel online...

ColinRX7 04-08-2004 04:23 PM

Or, I bought a new lightened steel flywheel that doesn't have a ring gear on it.



My stock flywheel and ring gear are in great shape. I didn't want to buy a new ring gear so I decided to venture on and install it myself from my old flywheel. I have experience with this type of stuff from work (inserting size to size pins into trailers, heating the **** out of the trailer and having the pin in an ice bucket), but I haven't done it on something like a flywheel yet.



Thanks for the replies guys. I don't think I would warp the ring gear unless I was really really beating on it. But then again the ring gear is probably thinner/weaker steel then what I deal with at work.. Isn't there something I can do to avoid warping it?

TYSON 04-08-2004 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Apr 8 2004, 04:23 PM
Thanks for the replies guys. I don't think I would warp the ring gear unless I was really really beating on it. But then again the ring gear is probably thinner/weaker steel then what I deal with at work.. Isn't there something I can do to avoid warping it?

Ring gear in oven, flywheel in deep freeze.





And your Mom probably complains you don't know how to use the kitchen!





Even heat and even pressure if you can.

1Revvin7 04-08-2004 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Apr 8 2004, 04:23 PM
Or, I bought a new lightened steel flywheel that doesn't have a ring gear on it.



My stock flywheel and ring gear are in great shape. I didn't want to buy a new ring gear so I decided to venture on and install it myself from my old flywheel. I have experience with this type of stuff from work (inserting size to size pins into trailers, heating the **** out of the trailer and having the pin in an ice bucket), but I haven't done it on something like a flywheel yet.



Thanks for the replies guys. I don't think I would warp the ring gear unless I was really really beating on it. But then again the ring gear is probably thinner/weaker steel then what I deal with at work.. Isn't there something I can do to avoid warping it?

Which flywheel did you get?

ColinRX7 04-08-2004 07:44 PM

Tweakit.net's 12lb billet steel one.

wanksta 04-08-2004 08:53 PM

Just go fetch your self one of those starters they used back in the '20s. With the cranks and stuff https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png Be sweet if APC made custom hand cranks!

1Revvin7 04-08-2004 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Apr 8 2004, 07:44 PM
Tweakit.net's 12lb billet steel one.

I so knew it. I love how they sell the doubel pulley for 2x what banzai does. I wonder why this was so cheap, makes sense now. I wonder if the ACT flywheel has the ring? Its the same price....

ColinRX7 04-08-2004 09:43 PM

Why? What's their reputation?

1Revvin7 04-08-2004 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Apr 8 2004, 09:43 PM
Why? What's their reputation?

Nothing LOL. I just don't like their overprice BS..

ColinRX7 04-08-2004 09:58 PM

They seemed excellent compared to people like Racing Beat who want a ******* fortune. This was almost half the price of a racing beat flywheel, shipped to my door.



I didn't see anything else that caught my eye anyways. What are you guys normally paying?

defprun 04-09-2004 01:46 AM

Remember revvin, that **** is in AUD prices, which are basically Canadian prices. So do the math!

ColinRX7 04-27-2004 10:16 AM

GUESS WHAT



I got my ring gear off. Easy as pie. You guys getting them cherry red, what kind of torch tip are you using?!!



Used a rosebud tip with an oxyacetalyne torch.



Layed the flywheel face down on the steel bench.



Made 3 moderate-speed laps around the flywheel aiming at the teeth of the gear.



BAM. 17 year old ring gear falls off, not even red hot. No warping, no damage, didn't even need a hammer.



Awesome. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

1Revvin7 04-27-2004 11:56 AM

Good to hear.

TheCamel 04-27-2004 08:31 PM

I hope the new one goes on just as easy for you.

RONIN FC 04-27-2004 11:48 PM

Carefull with that stuff, if it grinades you can get hurt pretty bad.

ColinRX7 04-28-2004 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by RONIN FC' date='Apr 27 2004, 08:48 PM
Carefull with that stuff, if it grinades you can get hurt pretty bad.

I'm not going to be revving at anything above stock..

ColinRX7 04-28-2004 05:27 PM

Man I wish the thing would hurry up and get here. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

ColinRX7 05-11-2004 07:01 PM

Got the flywheel today.



It's neat!



I put the ringgear in the oven on broil for about 5 minutes, and had the flywheel in the freezer during that time. Dropped on effortlessly. Perfect!

Rob x-7 05-11-2004 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='May 11 2004, 08:01 PM
I put the ringgear in the oven on broil for about 5 minutes, and had the flywheel in the freezer during that time. Dropped on effortlessly. Perfect!

Ill take a frozen snickers bar

TheCamel 05-11-2004 09:38 PM

Glad everything worked out for you, see asking the question acctually saved you a pretty big headache

ColinRX7 05-11-2004 10:44 PM

Yeah true say.



I didn't figure on heating it for too long.. I actually had it on 400 f for a while and then just set it to broil. It was in the oven for all of 10 minutes tops. When I switched it to broil I decided to put the flywheel in the feezer.. On top of my dinner.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Thanks again guys!

TYSON 05-11-2004 11:17 PM

Did it stink up the kitchen? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

ColinRX7 05-11-2004 11:39 PM

Actually yes.. I left the broiler on while I ate my grilled cheese and I didn't notice.



Not smart! Smokey!

scathcart 05-12-2004 06:01 PM

How much did it cost, all said and done and shipped into canada?

ColinRX7 05-12-2004 08:08 PM

$203 USD on the dollar after freight and tax and crap.



In CDN is was around $275 or so.



I'm impressed with it as it looks, and I can't wait to try it out, but I hesitate to say impressed until I'm actually driving with it. I can't wait though! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

ColinRX7 05-17-2004 10:12 PM

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