I pulled the car into the garage, shut it off. I was working on the car stereo. When i went to move the car it didn't want to start. I then performed the standard engine flooded trick w/ the fuse. Still no luck. I tried it a couple more times. nothing. I hooked the battery to a charger thinking that it my be too low. When i went to start it again i performed the flooded engine trick before hand. THe car went from making a starting sound to a high pitch whiney sound. It is a constant sound and the car doesn't sound like its gonna start. So i checked the spark plugs to see if they were fireing, and they put out a good spark. I sprayed starting spray into the injectors to see if it was a fuel problem. No change in the start. I even tried pushing starting it droping the clucth, it almost kicked, but to no avial. I'm not sure what is wrong. Should i take it somewhere to have it professonally fixed or is it simple and i'm missing the problem? help.

hookup battery charger, pull out all the spark plugs, pull egi fuse, crank it over for about 10 seconds like 20 times. that should usually do the trick. you will see gas coming out the tailpipes and shooting over your driver's side fender. i think you just flooded it REALLY bad. it took forever to unflood my TII when i got it. atleast a few hours...... just keep cranking it until you don't see anymore gas coming out the tailpipes.....

Are you getting any compression out of the rotors?



You getting fuel to the block? Starting fluid may not be enough to actually get it started. Where is the high pitch sound coming from?

Yea I was assuming it set for a while? Has it only set for a few?

when you crank with the spark plugs out you should hear WHOOSHES of compression

it has set overnight, and it sounds like its coming from the alternator. Is it possible that it could be because of a problem w/ the eletric fuel pump?

Yes, if you aren't getting fuel. Go ahead and pull the fuel line out of the side of the block, then crank it over, you should spew some fuel fuel out of the line. If no fuel, pull it before the filter, it could just be a clogged fuel filter as well, crank it see if you are getting fuel before the filter.



If no, then you have either a bad fuel pump or fuel pump relay. You can pull the cover off teh back and see if you hear it running, then track it down from there.

thanks

no prob

if you don't hear compression wooshes when you crank with the spark plugs out try putting some 2 stroke oil in the combustion chambers via spark plug holes, or marvels mystery oil then crank it a bunch, maybe let it soak in a bit.



if you badly flood the motor you can wash away all the oil and if you let it sit corrosion can begin, apex seals can stick etc. this will have a negative effect on compression. keep things oiled.



another problem is often people flood their motors due to old leaking injectors, pulling the EGI fuse disables the injectors, but if they are leaking they will still let fuel by! The fuel pump still runs with the EGI fuse pulled (on my S4 NA anyways) I have a switch installed for toggling the fuel pump power so it can be disabled when needed. You might want to add something like that.



Do you smell fuel?

i don't smell fuel. Might any of the fueses cause the fuel pump to no operate?

did you have the airbox out?



mike

The fuses for the fuel pump are under the hood, there should be a little map on the top of the power distribution box, or whatever it is called these days.

The air box is in place, and i was wondering wheither anyother fuses could cause the car to not start?

i think there is one under the dash, engine or something

there are 2 under the hood, the btn and the main fuse



mike

He just wanted to know if you had it out cause you may unplugged the MAS which would cause it not to start.



The only fuses that could cause it not to start "should" be under the hood in the previously mentioned location.

thanks guys, i'm going to go and try to fix my car, i'll let you know if it works.

aight!

I pulled the EGI INJ fuse the other night after I put the motor in thinking it disabled the fuel pump and injectors, but it didnt :rant: ****** puddle of gas made me so high, the fuel rails were just hangin there, no injectors installed.

But then I remembered my switch and flipped it off.... was too cold to look at the wiring diagram, I just wanted to prime the oil system a bit after I filled the sump. There should be a fuse somewhere.

At this point if the car still doesnt start and its getting fuel, put a small amount of Marvel Mystery Oil in the plugs and let it sit overnight, if you flooded it badly enough this will help clear it out.



Seems odd it didnt start after you did your stereo work, are you sure you didnt either unplug something, or tap into a wire for power not knowing what its for? Perhaps blown a fuse? You check the fuses under the hood and in the fuse block to make sure they arent blown?



There is also a plug under the steering column off the right, like 6-8 wires in it, one side of the plug is yellow I think, you didnt either un-plug that or try taking power from there did you?



If the air box isnt bolted on the throttle body the car wont start even if the MAS and the AFM is plugged in. Your AFM is plugged in isnt it?

I tested all of the fuses and they are fine. I pulled the spark plugs and replaced them w/ new ones. I cranked the engine w/ the plugs out and the fuse out, put in some ATF and put everything back. Tried to start the car and the same thing happened. So i took out the plugs and cleaned out the engine again. I'm going to let it sit overnight w/ the plugs out. If i can't get it working do any of you know of a good rx-7 mechanic in the indianapolis, Indiana area. If so please tell me for future reference. thanks

only other thing I can suggest is not to plug the fuel fuses back in until the car sounds like it is cranking over normally. Then when it sounds normal put the fuse back in for a few seconds to see if there is any signs of life, then pull it back out so you dont flood it again.

i got the car working agian. the engine was very flooded. when i put the plugs back in i heard compression. i had to take the fuse out and crank it many times before the car would start up. I sprayed some starting spray into the intake to give the car a little more boost. ONce it started up the garage was filled w/ smoke, but now my toy is working agian. thanks all.