Is there any differences between the S4 and S5 fenders and front bumper mounting holes? I ask because I have a set of S5 fenders that I believe are straight and I want to use them for reference to realign the mounting holes for the fenders and bumper. I dont trust the S4 fenders I have.



Thnx

Andy

They are slightly different, I was however under the impression that you could use them.

the fenders can be used . the bumpers can be used as well. but with any fender or bumper on any car there will always be some fitting needed to be done so it will look correct.

I have a S4 fender on my S5, so I'm pretty sure the mounting bolts are the same. The only differences I've noticed are between the S4 and S5 fenders are that the side moldings attach differently and the S5 fenders have a little screw-hole near the front of the tire-well.

[quote name='haachi' date='Mar 19 2005, 05:51 PM']I have a S4 fender on my S5, so I'm pretty sure the mounting bolts are the same. The only differences I've noticed are between the S4 and S5 fenders are that the side moldings attach differently and the S5 fenders have a little screw-hole near the front of the tire-well.


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yep thats the difference

The old thread is gone so Ill continue from here.



My dad and I managed to bend out the main beams over several weekends of work. We bolted a 12 foot stainless steel unistrut to the end of the frame rails and, with some cutting, got the rails back close to alignment. After they were straight, we riveted some peices of angle on to the tops of the beams where we had to cut them. You can see the peice of angle with rivets in it here:



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...1_90_59533.jpg



After those were straight, it was time to work on the supporting sheet metal. I spent many hours working on all of that with 2 pair of vicegrips, a pair of channel-locks, an iron pipe and a big screwdriver for prying, and a hammer. After much pounding and cussing, my friend Jake and I made some meaningful progress.



WE GOT BODY PANELS ON!!!



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...1_90_21210.jpg



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The black panels are S5 instead of S4. They are kinda beat up but they are in better shape than the originals. I may also choose to put the S5 foglights in, not sure yet though. Once I get everything back together, I will have to start saving for a paint job. A real paint job I mean, not some Maaco ****. I dont know what color I want repainted though. The car was originally gold with black accents. Pics from pre-wreck



What do you think? Stick with the gold or try something else?



Sinful: Do you know of any good body shops in or around Denver?



I am on spring break now so I have this whole week to work on the car.



To all of you who have helped me, Thanks. To the few of you who said it couldnt be done:

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/gal...1_90_24568.jpg

thats a great job for something that couldnt be done!



btw id be tempted to keep the gold just to be different

all i know is that is a really clean engine bay... nice job.

who said it couldnt be done?



long before frame machines people used whatever was around, usually something attatched to a large tree, lol

I'd keep it gold, just so you don't have to mess with the engine bay/doors and such, and gold seems to be an increasingly rare FC color. I'd like my gold car to look as nice as yours did before the wreck, maybe throw in a some pearl or something.

just make sure to bolt up the hood before you put away the tools, somethings may still need adjusting

wow. not bad. and gold is a rare color. i constantly see red,black, and blue. keep the gold.

[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Mar 21 2005, 06:24 PM']just make sure to bolt up the hood before you put away the tools, somethings may still need adjusting


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No kidding.



The hood lines up great with the bumper and the fenders, but the headlights are being a pain. It looks like I need to move the upper rad support forward another inch or so. I was thinking about making a beam to go across the front of the strut towers and using a bottle jack to push the rad support forward. Do you think the strut towers are strong enough to push on? Aldo, is there a difference between the S4 and S5 headlight assemblies? I cant see any big differences, but I'd like to be sure.



Thnx

Andy

Instead of moving the rad support forward, wouldn't it be easier to make new mounting points for the headlight on the support? For the upper mounting points (horizontal), just drill a hole and weld in a nut, for the lower ones (vertical) just use some spacers.

[quote name='CGeek2k' date='Mar 22 2005, 10:43 AM']No kidding.



The hood lines up great with the bumper and the fenders, but the headlights are being a pain. It looks like I need to move the upper rad support forward another inch or so. I was thinking about making a beam to go across the front of the strut towers and using a bottle jack to push the rad support forward. Do you think the strut towers are strong enough to push on? Aldo, is there a difference between the S4 and S5 headlight assemblies? I cant see any big differences, but I'd like to be sure.



Thnx

Andy


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strut towers should be good enough to push on, might be better to pull on something outside the car though?



the headlight framii are the same

Well damn. I discovered the drivers side headlight motor is fuct and the S5 motor I have doesnt have the extra relay wired to it. If I splice the S4 relay and connecter on to the S5 motor, will that work?



Pushing on the strut towers worked great. The headlight frames and the radiator all fit pretty well. I am now in the process of what I hope will be final reassembly.



Thnx

Andy

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I got everything back together and took her out for a spin. Still runs strong. I have a lot of fitment issues I need to work out but it works and the alignment is still pretty close. The hood sits too high and the headlights are too low when they close so Ill have to do a bit more bending. Once thats all lined up it will be time to start saving for a paint job.



N/M about the headlight motor question. I guess the S5 motor doesnt need that extra relay. I plugged it straight in and it worked fine.



Thnx for all your help.

Andy