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porsche4786 02-13-2005 02:38 PM

Anybody know who has a reasonable price on a rear camber bar? and that is on the west coast with quick shipping? I installed ground control coilovers and now the rear camber is pretty bad. if there is any other way to fix this, please let me know. and i'm guessing that les schwab doesn't have a way of fixing this when aligning...

Cheers! 02-13-2005 03:07 PM

mazdatrix.

else you can make your own. I made my own and it worked out to 60 cdn including the left hand tap which was 20 bucks

porsche4786 02-13-2005 03:10 PM

I actually don't even know where the hell this peice is that I need to replace or whatever. Or how to install it.






Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Feb 13 2005, 01:07 PM
mazdatrix.

else you can make your own. I made my own and it worked out to 60 cdn including the left hand tap which was 20 bucks



Cheers! 02-13-2005 04:59 PM

check the FSM

porsche4786 02-13-2005 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Feb 13 2005, 02:59 PM
check the FSM






I'm not sure what to look for in there...I mean, there is no rear camber adjuster on the car, so where would it go? What would i be replacing?

j9fd3s 02-13-2005 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by porsche4786' date='Feb 13 2005, 03:14 PM
I'm not sure what to look for in there...I mean, there is no rear camber adjuster on the car, so where would it go? What would i be replacing?




theres a link from the rear subframe to the body, this is what you're changing

porsche4786 02-13-2005 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Feb 13 2005, 03:52 PM
theres a link from the rear subframe to the body, this is what you're changing




http://mazdatrix.com/h6_86-92.htm

which of these do I need, or should i get then? I'm kinda of confused, with one of these you only need 1 it says, but with the other you need 2, one for each side.

j9fd3s 02-13-2005 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by porsche4786' date='Feb 13 2005, 04:07 PM
http://mazdatrix.com/h6_86-92.htm

which of these do I need, or should i get then? I'm kinda of confused, with one of these you only need 1 it says, but with the other you need 2, one for each side.




the red one replaces the factory rod, and you just need the one.



the things below it, mount in a different place, and thus you need two, but if you have the red one, you dont need these. its an either or

porsche4786 02-13-2005 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Feb 13 2005, 04:21 PM
the red one replaces the factory rod, and you just need the one.



the things below it, mount in a different place, and thus you need two, but if you have the red one, you dont need these. its an either or




ok, thanks. i think i'll probably go with the single red one, just sounds easier to install and fixes both sides at the same time. but I hope it will fix the camber.

89 Rag 02-13-2005 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by porsche4786' date='Feb 13 2005, 04:35 PM
ok, thanks. i think i'll probably go with the single red one, just sounds easier to install and fixes both sides at the same time. but I hope it will fix the camber.




How much is too much? .25-.50 or more than that?

porsche4786 02-13-2005 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by 89 Rag' date='Feb 13 2005, 04:52 PM
How much is too much? .25-.50 or more than that?




Well...I'm not really sure how to measure it, but I installed ground control coilovers and it looks like the camber is pretty bad...

89 Rag 02-13-2005 07:38 PM

If it exceeds 2 degrees there might be a small reason for concern, but I really doubt it is past that point.

mazda se 02-14-2005 07:47 AM

If you thinking of going with the adjustable subframe likn dont do it. Iv got one from racing beat and it doesent give you that much adjustment,I just ordered adjustable upper pillowball mounts from tein for 180.00.I think they are the better choice plus they give you more adjustment

Cheers! 02-14-2005 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by mazda se' date='Feb 14 2005, 08:47 AM
If you thinking of going with the adjustable subframe likn dont do it. Iv got one from racing beat and it doesent give you that much adjustment,I just ordered adjustable upper pillowball mounts from tein for 180.00.I think they are the better choice plus they give you more adjustment




what? there are two possible ways to adjust the rear camber on a 2nd gen rx7. EIther with the camber adjustment link sold by racingbeat/mazdatrix etc that tilts the subframe. Or you change the inner front link for the control arm which pivots the control arm. With the later you run the risk of the bushing binding on the outer pivot point.



There is a 3rd, the stupid ebay ones (but those dont' work and are poorly designed).



What exactly is the tein pillow ball mount, and how does changing the shock angle change teh rear suspension camber? This is a trailing arm suspension in the back. Not a McPherson system. Please elaborate.

Cheers! 02-14-2005 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by porsche4786' date='Feb 13 2005, 08:08 PM
Well...I'm not really sure how to measure it, but I installed ground control coilovers and it looks like the camber is pretty bad...




factory alignments for the rear wheels is -0.44 degrees. Front is +0.20 degrees.

porsche4786 02-14-2005 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by mazda se' date='Feb 14 2005, 05:47 AM
If you thinking of going with the adjustable subframe likn dont do it. Iv got one from racing beat and it doesent give you that much adjustment,I just ordered adjustable upper pillowball mounts from tein for 180.00.I think they are the better choice plus they give you more adjustment




I thought you had to do some cutting and welding to install those, and I don't trust myself doing that. Could the link fix the camber if it's off like 1 or 2 degree's? Or could that other single rod? http://mazdatrix.com/h6_86-92.htm

Cheers! 02-14-2005 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by porsche4786' date='Feb 14 2005, 11:17 AM
I thought you had to do some cutting and welding to install those, and I don't trust myself doing that. Could the link fix the camber if it's off like 1 or 2 degree's? Or could that other single rod? http://mazdatrix.com/h6_86-92.htm




No. If you read the description carefully it says if you want more than what you can get with those links, you will need to cut and weld your control arm up to get that.

porsche4786 02-14-2005 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Feb 14 2005, 11:43 AM
No. If you read the description carefully it says if you want more than what you can get with those links, you will need to cut and weld your control arm up to get that.




I know that. But I wonder how much they will adjust it. I will have to call em up. I was referring to installing the upper pillowball mounts.

Cheers! 02-14-2005 03:56 PM

i don't see how adjusting the upper pillow ball mount on a trailling suspension allows you to change static camber angle.

scathcart 02-15-2005 12:27 AM


Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Feb 14 2005, 01:56 PM
i don't see how adjusting the upper pillow ball mount on a trailling suspension allows you to change static camber angle.




Pillowball mount adjustment on the rear does nothing to 2nd gen tire alignment. Pillowballs will only work on the front.



I personally don't like the mazdatrix rear camber links... I think they are a bad design and cab be much improved on for much less money.

porsche4786 02-15-2005 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by scathcart' date='Feb 14 2005, 10:26 PM
Pillowball mount adjustment on the rear does nothing to 2nd gen tire alignment. Pillowballs will only work on the front.



I personally don't like the mazdatrix rear camber links... I think they are a bad design and cab be much improved on for much less money.




well..too late, i ordered them so i hope they will get the job done. I shouldn't be adjusting them all the time or anything, just when i need an alignment.


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