ok... i can't get my car started.



1989 Rx7 TurboII



189,000 KMs



i parked it mid october and haven't touched it... i went to go bring the car out of storage by the car won't start...



the battery was FUBAR too... it cranked a coupleof times and then it died... tried to recharge it with a battery charger but he battery won't hold a charge



So i go and buy a new optima redtop



i pulled the plugs out... put someATF in the leading plug holes... since my squirt bottle had ATF



didn't work.. car won't start...



fine so i dump the ATF and get motor oil and put that into the leading plug holes



still won't catch... each time i floor the gas pedal so that it will cut fuel to the engine on startup... i have even tried to use the EGI fuse





my car has never flooded... it would catch after 1 turn of the engine...



Please help me...



How do i start a severely flooded engine? i know it is flooded because when i first pulled the plugs they smell like gasoline and they were wet.

Umm other then what you are doing i dont know. Maybe a push start would work? I think you might have some leaky injectors though or else you cranked it too much on the initial try.

I usually turn it over with the plugs out (removed from plugs wires, too) to blow out the extra fuel. 10-15 seconds did it the 2 times my car has flooded.



Funny thing, the only times I've ever flooded it was after I had the right side jacked up to work on the exhaust....

Pull the plugs, clean them, put them back in. Pull the EGI fuse, crank it over for 10 - 15 sec. Put the fuse back in, and try starting it.

should the engine catch even if the EGI fuse is out?

ie will the car start with the flooded engine's own gasoline? even for a second?

the problem with pulling the fuse is that it turns off the spark too, i like unplugging the fuel pump. it does sound like you flooded it badly though, a push might not be a bad idea, or a pull



mike

I tried doing a rolling start (rolling out the garage, down the driveway) when me car was flooded real bad, it wouldn't work, but I didn't get going real fast. Another thing you can do is unscrew, and unplug the fuel pump relay and crank it over for 10 - 15 sec. Then plug it back in and try.

My father, being a mechanic had this crazy way of getting a flooded rotary to start. After not starting for a while, he would unplug the plug wires from the leading and hold them close enought to the spark that when the second person helping crank the engine, the electricty will jump the gab from the wire to the spark plug. This he said would heat up the spark plug make it run hot.



Well i didn't believe till he did it on a badly flooded engine. Becareful, it hurts getting zap by that much voltage. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

i gave up on the day... considering i FUBARed a trailing plug while taking it out... for some reason the #1 rotor trailing sparkplug is thight as hell ... ie i can't use my finger tips to remove or install the sparkplug... it's like the threads are fubared... but the plug goes in straight with a socket wrench after 1/2 way of scrweing it in by hand.



anyhow... can anyone confirm that stepping ont he gas pedal all the way is like disconnected teh fuel pump in essence?



or is this just rx7club.com rumor bull ****... looking at the FSM shows no switch... Unless it get its signal from the TPS... where if the engine is cranking and TPS is at full reading... then the fuel pump goes off... i'm nto sure.

Not bullshit, will cut fuel, until it will turn over.

the plugs make a hell of a differance.... the must be bone dry..... also take the top... largest vac line off front of TB,pipe the ATF in this way works the best for me, pull the egi fuse and turn the car over... the vacuum will pull ATF in do this with the plugs out.... pull in a half cup and let the car sit.....might want to remove O2 sensor.. it will get fouled ... next day turn the car over to get ATF out of the plug holes to clear the chamber.... use the old plugs to fire it up... at night.. it will smoke like a train!!! Good luck

I hope I'm preachin' to the converted, but anti-seize on the plugs is essential. Since we're talking about spark plug R&R.

my FD didn't want to start after i let it sit for 4 weeks. just had to rev it a little then all was good. my TII was SEVERLY flooded when i got it. it took 4 hours to UNFLOOD IT. i swear they emptied the whole goddamn gas tank into the engine. i did what tyson said. pulled plugs kept cranking until there was no gas coming out the tailpipes or out of the spark plug holes. you will also notice the whooshes get ALOT louder when all the gas is out of it. good luck

i tryed doing that with my car but no dice. so what i did is i pulled out the plugs and left them out and let the car sit out in the sun all day came back out later that afternoon and put the plugs in and vrooom started right up. i let the gas evaporage out of there. one thing i love about florida.



TurboSmoke

with the humidity down there is a wonder it didn't fill up with water https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

after you crank the engine over, put the plugs on the stove and get em hot



mike

hey man listen i didn't read the above posts that every one answered but your having the same problem i had a week ago.



Trying to crank over the engine just make it worse...



The only way i got it started was to fully charge the battery, take out the plugs leave them out for a minute then install new clean plugs.

Trying to install the old plugs even after cleaning them to the point of new didn't work for me, but again i'm using BUR9EQ in all 4



Anyways after installing the new plugs and the battery is fully charged, crank the engine over like you would every day no leaving anything unpluged, don't press the gas as your just injecting more gas and oil every time the engine turns which there is already enough in that housing to begin with at this point. pressing the gas just injects more then the engine would on it's own



Anyways cross your fingers, knock on wood, throw a whole salt shaker over your shoulder if you have to,and crank the engine. For me it started after turning over 3 times



Your engine will smoke i'm guessing worse then you fucked an oil seal (i'm guessing here since i never blue one) lets just say if you stood behind the mufflers you won't even see your feet



anyways it should go back to normal after a few min depending on how many times you cranked it over b4 it started.



Let me know what happens



Frank

thanks for all the help guys... it looks like my previous attempts to start the car failed because iddin't get all the gasoline out of the engine.



I pulled the plugs again... pulled the EGI fuse... and cranked her over...u could see gas spraying out in a fine mist out of hte leading spark plugs holes...



A fellow rotary friend/expert came over to help...



after killing a canadian tire battery... and then buying a optima redtop battery... i finally got it to start... I jumped the optima redtop for the last couple of tries..



when i was sure the GAS was out...i put some oil in it started and then stalled at 4000 rpm... and it flooed again... AH!!! so repeat above and put even more oil in ... and it started... and damn that is a lot of smoke!



thanks for all the help everyone i appriciate it.