Ok, so there's a 10AE in my area for sale at a dealership for $4,000. 118k miles on the clock. I don't trust dealerships too much, so I might look for another one. If I decide to do so, should I see if they have all the service records? If not, should I just back away? There's also another TII about 10 minutes from my dorm at a dealership with 80k miles for 500 less, so I have another option.

Its hard to judge with dealerships, some can be so nice but great liers. Otheres mean and grumpy but are telling the cold hard truth LOL. Right away the AE is worth more because of being the Aniversarry addition. There are a few guys on her that have AE's and may be able to help you on what to look for besides the common FC things. Like you mentioned, start by trying to get all documents that may be available....

Wow. A 10AE? For that price? Super cool. If there is no problem with the AE, I would buy that one before the regular TII.



What type of condition is it in? I would ask for some sales receipt on what has been done with the car, not just modifcation ****, just mechanical problems.



If you don't buy it, could you possibly tell me where it is located??? I am not too far from you.



Hey, off topic question. Do you know about the Maryland BBQ going on in July?

Yea, I was shocked about the price of the 10AE as well. I have a feeling that they don't know it's a 10AE if they're selling it for that much. As of right now, I don't know the condition of the car other than the pic I saw. Here's a link to the ad on AutoTrader: 10AE Of course, I might be wrong about it being a 10AE, but i'm pretty sure of it. If you look on the fender, there's something there by the door (kind of in the shadow) that looks like a 10AE emblem. Sadly, I have to wait until July if I get this car...hopefully no one will take it before then https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png Also, I had no idea of the Maryland BBQ. Definitely have to bring my new FC up there though https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Oh, forgot to mention. I've got the VIN number, so if someone could hook me up with a carfax report? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

I think Robx-7 can give you one. Just start a new thread in General Discussion for a carfax report. Or there is a actual forum on here at the bottom I think.



It is hard to say if it is a true 10AE. It has leather seats, but does not say if it is has ABS. And a "special audio system". If it is a 10AE, it is well worth the buy. And they have no clue what they have, because it says 4 Cylinder Turbo.



Good luck, and if you don't buy it I will consider giving the guy a ring and offer him some cash and sell my 88 SE.



The maryland BBQ is on July 17th in Crofton,MD. It is all rotary powered cars, and Pre-1975(i think, may be 68)V8's. Yeah, pistons. It just makes it more interesting. More info here. http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?s=&t...25&pagenumber=1 Hope to see you there with a FB,FC,or FD in hand.

I can't seem to find the General Discussion forum. Could you post a link?



I'll ask Robx-7 and see if he can help me out. I'm a little put off by that whole 4 cylinder thing, which makes it seem that there could be problems with it seeing as they obviously have no idea about the car. Another option I have is an '89 (i think) GTU with 10k on a rebuilt engine. But like I said, this isn't gonna be purchased until July. Thanks for your help https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

The forum on rx7club is in the NE Forum near the bottom of the page. It has the info on the Md BBQ.



A GTU? Those are hard to find. And no problem, always willing to help.

An 89 GTU is the base model. Not to be confused with the 88 GTU, which replaced the 86 and 87 Sport.

So I went to the dealership to check this possible 10AE out, and this is how the conversation with the dealer went:





Dealer: "Can I help you today, sir?"

Me: "Yes, your ad on Auto Trader says you have a 1988 Mazda RX-7 here?"

D: "Ooohh...yea...did you call earlier?"

M: "No."

D: "Well, turns out there was a leaky fuel line and the car um...caught fire. It's being repaired right now, but you can still buy it once the work is finished"

M: "Not a chance *walks back to his car* "



I had someone run a carfax report for me and it turns out it has a salvage title...that was issued in 19-*******-92! Apparently there was severe damage done to the car.



Just a friendly reminder to ALWAYS check CarFax before you buy a car...

sweet... i was gonna say walk in there and tell him you'll give him a grand for it... but not now.. the frame is prob. garbage...

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png Off all rx-7's it had to happen to a 10AE. I was thinking of calling the guy up and seeing what was wrong with it. I never would've figured that.



Good look finding an RX-7 FCjunkie. I drove mine for the first time today. Awesome ride. And mighty loud, I had no idea I was hitting 8000rpms.

I think i've found my Turbo II https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



1987 Turbo II

56k original miles

Never taken above 6,000RPM

Owner has had 6 other RX-7s

Never abused (owner is 46 years old)

Purchased in 2001 with 48k miles

Bone stock (wouldn't even let his son put in a boost controller)

$3000 in South Carolina (i'm in NoVA)

Said for extra, he'd deliver



I was thinking of backing away from the RX-7 due to the risk of too many problems, and was looking the realm of BMWs and Audis. I figured that once i'm out of college, I could have one as a weekend toy/project and that I might even be able to afford an FD3S. Now I just gotta talk to my dad about this...i mean...56k ORIGINAL miles!

Hmmmm. Seems nice. Good luck. Get the VIN and check the title. And 56k original miles?? Seems unlikely, but can happen.

Definitely gonna check the VIN after the most recent fiasco. The owner bought it in 2001 and it had been garaged for three years

Well, now my dad is being retarded. Bringing up things like "I don't think i'd want to buy a car I haven't seen yet" and "I'm concerned about the reliability of an RX-7." Just thought of an idea to combat the first issue: A friend and I wake up early on Sat. morning, drive down to South Carolina, meet the guys, drive the car. If I like it then my dad and I could meet them halfway the following weekend. If I don't like it, oh well...it's not like my car only gets 11 miles per gallon, so that's just $20 or $30 spent on gas.

Your dad is just looking out for you. He is playing the father role. My pops was the same way. They wanted me to buy a Jeep or a Chevy Cavalier or some piston powered car. I told them I wanted an RX-7. I looked for over a year until I found one that was about 2 hours from me. Went up and looked at it. FELL IN LOVE!! I don't care if it has minor dents, clear coat coming off, and needs new stock parts, but I loved it. I could not drive it, because the weather was really horrible. Drove it home, loved it even more. I just recently drove it by myself and gunned the **** out of it, and fell in love even more.



Now I need new shifter boots, new tires, and new radiator(smart thing to do).



He is looking out for you. Just tell him about the 787b that one the 24 hour Lemans. It beat the craph out of every other piston engine by about 6-8 hours. Mazda reps cracked open the engine, and it looked brand new, all the other piston powered cars where blown up. Granted, that was a 4rotor that was professionally done by mazda rotary technicians, but it gives you a broad idea. Ever I told my father that, the deal was sealed. I have also had alot of help from my neighbor who owns an FD, and he will be helping me out on a paint job, and a streetport.



Good luck.

Oh, he knows plenty about rotary engines. He used to own an RX-3 back in the day, and he got my mom an RX-4. It's not that he doesn't trust the rotary, he's just concerned because it'd be my daily driver. But, things are looking up. I found a '67 Porsche 911S, and insurance is only $10 more for that than the 7...and he's all about saving 10 bucks https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

What the hell? I would NEVER buy a porsche in my life. Parts for those cars are SUPER expensive. If you have a hook up that is a different story.



That is like with my folks. They saw a Chevy Cavalier, so I looked at it. Hooked up fast and furious style. Muffler tip, just the muffler tip, chromed out POS rims, shaved decals and body moldings. And it was automatic.



I wanted 5 speed RX-7. Did not really care what year.



Good luck. And if he has had an RX-3 and an RX-4 he should know that Rotary engines are great. They just require more loving than a piston engine. In a piston engine you can not change the oil or run low on oil and it will be fine, but the rotary, you are just asking for trouble.



Good luck again.

Before purchasing get a compression check to see what shape the motors in



There's no anny tags on the so called 10th AE in that pic https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif



Your dad was right you shouldn't buy a car you haven't seen.



So did you go check it out or what,how did it go?

As far as the "10AE" goes, it SORT OF looks like there's an emblem near the front right fender (the only one visable). Like I said, I could be wrong. I'll never be able to find out anyways, because the goddamn thing caught on fire. I'm well aware that I shouldn't buy a car I haven't seen, and that's the point of driving down to South Carolina, to see the car and test it before I actually decide to buy it. I don't know when i'll be able to go to SC to look at it, but hopefully it'll be soon.



As far as compression tests, is there a way I could get a tester to bring with me? Could I rent one from a dealership or parts store, or would I have to buy one?



Edit: You're right, there doesn't appear to be an emblem. Maybe it's damage to the car (paint scrape) or something like that. Either way, it still looked like a nice car from the pic https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.png

It has the wheels though and i think i can see the spot where the badge was, it looks like there is some glue there.



fc3sjunkie remember just cause he said he never beat on the car or took it above 6000 rpms doeesnt mean the previous didnt beat on it.

Good eye your right about the rims I didn't even look for that it was an 10th AE



Also you don't know this guy so therefore you can't really trust him.His son could of been beating on it and the previous owner.A compression test tells you alot just make sure you get one.Not only that but at a spot of your choice,he can easily have a buddy at a shop he knows lie for him about the numbers.I don't know where to get the things to do a compression check someone else would have to help you on that.



Good luck

Before you get too attached to the 911, you might want to check some "cost of operation" prices. Standard 2.0 liter pistons have been hard to come by for ages. Currently, aftermarket slugs are over $3500 a set (that's over the counter). OEM is NLA. If your dad is worried about the 7, an early 911 will make him faint. The timing chain hardware alone is $1000 (cam sprokets, chain spockets, cam nuts, chain tensioners, spacers, shafts, wheels, oil lines, and upgraded tensioners). That doesn't include cams, rockers, or installation, just the parts required to keep the cams in time. When you finish a $10K rebuild on an early 911, you have a 130HP car. If you're going to get in over your head, do it with a collectable. I owned a 73. 72 and 73 were the absolute best of the early cars.

Yea, I decided last night that the 911 wasn't such a good idea, thanks to some friendly people on a 911 board. My list keeps changing, and i hate it! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png However, there's an '87 Turbo II, white (my fav. FC color), 46k original miles, one owner in Maryland (about 45 miles from me) for $7k. Sounds like a better deal than the one in South Carolina, simply because it's 10x easier for me to go to MD than SC. Also, the list has changed to look something like this:



FC

S14 Nissan 240SX

MkII Toyota MR2

E36 BMW 3 Series

Mazda Miata



Of course, the FC will always be on the top of the list. Damn me an my indecisiveness https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

If I were you I would take a trip out to both locations.



Is this your first car?The MR2 isn't a car for the enexperienced driver.



An fc is a great car to start off with.Stick with it.

Compression tester can be had at a Pep Boys or an Auto Zone. About 20-30 bucks. Just ask the guys at the counter, they "should" know.



Or check in your pops garage, he may have one. My father had one the whole time, and did not even bother to tell me.



7k for a TII seems VERY high. But what mods have been done engine wise, suspension, body kits. I would rather take a stock FC rather than one with modifications. One thing, it is just fun to work on it and spend your hard earned cash on mods. It is just more satisfying.



I would never buy a Porsche in my life. And only one reason....I would be labeled for having a small dick. Now in a FC, that is a different story.



Good Luck. And where is this guy selling a TII in Maryland, I may have seen it.

No, this will be my second car.

The TII in Maryland is bone stock. As for the location, I don't know, just that it's 45 miles from my house in Manassas and has a "MD state inspection" I was (still am) iffy on that 7k price tag. But it's only 46k miles, and from the pics, appears to be in great condition. Here's the ad if you wanna check it out: White S4 TII

7 grand is a bit pricy for a stock S4



Say all you have is $5,500 and see what he says

Sounds like a good idea to me. NADA and Blue Book say about $3k, but i'll go ahead and offer $5k.

Even better https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

Wow. Looks clean.



G'luck.