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Wankelteer 04-05-2004 12:17 AM

Many people say that they dont like the power steering. I personally cant stand cars without it. I have turning at low speeds, you really have to crank the wheel with two arms. Plus, I find drifting is way easier with PS. Better control.

Wankelteer 04-05-2004 12:17 AM

Thats I hate turning at low speeds *

FikseRxSeven 04-05-2004 12:18 AM

seems like you know what you want

'79rx7 04-05-2004 03:02 AM

actually control is better without it you get more feedback.................

turborotor 04-05-2004 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by '79rx7' date='Apr 5 2004, 04:02 AM
actually control is better without it you get more feedback.................

True true, for road course is great. If you need quick response to steering like for drifting stay with PS. I turn mine off for track and turn it on for street.



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i.didnt.do.it 04-05-2004 07:49 AM

Power Steering or No Power Steering, thats personal preference. After my P/S hose blew, it was a PITA for a while until I just got used to it. Now I hardly notice at all. I can turn mine with one hand no problem, and I've got more control if the steering....

1gendreemer 04-05-2004 08:47 AM

I like it better without. You get a lot more "feel" though it does take a lot more input when you're driving hard or at low speeds. When I drive a car with PS now though, I find it "too easy" for my liking and I tend to overdrive. I haven't aggressively drifted, but I would imagine that you'd have to have PS to steer so quickly...no ways around it.

CGeek2k 04-05-2004 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Apr 5 2004, 05:30 AM
True true, for road course is great. If you need quick response to steering like for drifting stay with PS. I turn mine off for track and turn it on for street.



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How do you turn it on and off? Just remove the belt, or will that break something?



Thnx

Seppuku 04-05-2004 05:25 PM

You can unplug the ps computer in the car and it will cut it out most of the way. I cant remember excatly how much or anything but ive done it that way before my self.

rmaiersg 04-05-2004 06:30 PM

I loved driving my car without the PS. Parallel parking didn't even bother me. It really sucked when I drifted though. The wheel always thryed to rip out from my hands. Def not as comfortable.

ColinRX7 04-05-2004 08:07 PM

It's up to you what you like.



Try it with power steering, try taking the belt off to give you a rough idea of how much difference it makes. The technology Mazda put into the power steering computer back in the 80s is not to be underrated. I love the feel of it.

mazdaspeed7 04-05-2004 08:46 PM

Theres a HUGE difference between unplugging the p/s or removing the belt and completely removing the p/s pump. The steering is MUCH lighter when youre not trying to force fluid through a non-moving pump.



I have the pump removed on mine, and I have never once found myself wishing I had power steering. The feel is so much better, and its not much heavier than many sports cars with power steering. It feels about the same effort-wise as the WRX STi, and only a little heavier than the S2000. Its nowhere near as bad as the old mitsubishi truck with manual steering I drove from time to time.

Lionheart240 04-05-2004 08:46 PM

The power-steering has this thing that activates when you hit speeds above like 70mph where the car becomes stiffer and not as twitchy so that you won't fly off the highway. I drove an AE86 without power-steering and it wasn't hard at all, except when making turns from a dead stop, and parking in general.



I'm keeping power-steering in my RX7 though because there's no reason NOT to have it. Unlike piston motors, simply removing the belts because they "rob horsepower", is not an issue with RX-7's. I'll be keeping my A/C too, thanks. lol

mazdaspeed7 04-05-2004 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Lionheart240' date='Apr 5 2004, 09:46 PM
Unlike piston motors, simply removing the belts because they "rob horsepower", is not an issue with RX-7's.

We've got a bright one here...

TII777 04-06-2004 01:31 AM

Ive got the whole ps system removed and I don't regret it one bit. I like the feel much better. If I'm not mistaken I thought the FC's had power assisted steering where you only have ps at low speed, so thats the only difference. Its not bad at all, I think I could park with one finger if I tried hehe.

'79rx7 04-06-2004 03:50 AM

Everyone seems to think you can't drift without power steering... Uh i must be special cause i drift all the time, without it. Once you get the feel for it, you can throw the wheel and let go and let it correct its self... I like to let go and scream when there's a passenger in the car to scare them, though the whole drift thing usually does a pretty good job of doing that as is.

-=DRIFT=- 04-06-2004 01:21 PM

Hmmm......... I'm removing my ps and air, and I dont think it will nearly be as hard to turn as my dodge dakota that has a blown pump. Ive driven the 7 with the key turned off, and found it fairly light, like the pump didnt do anything anyway. I think it would only matter if you drive from a standing start, and need to turn on a low radius, as in parrelel parking.

BigTurbo74 04-07-2004 09:43 PM

i think people are missing something here. there is a HUGE difference between a looped power steering rack with no pump, and the plain old manual rack. i thinking that's why many people's opinions are conflicting a bit. i have driven all types and believe that it's a decision between either power steering, or convert to the manual rack. either system is easy and comfortable to drive, but like someone previously said, it is all opinion based.


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