Ok, here's a question. I got real use to drifting useing my lackluster real easy powersteering



I havnt gotten a chance to break in my new tires and do a little sliding since i took my power steering pump off.. My question is:



1. Do you 'have' to have powersteering to drift?

2. Does it make it easier?

3. I think that's it.



thanks

im sure you can drift without powersteering

as long as you can steer it well enough without the power steering you should be fine.

ok my point of veiw is yes you should have it to drift, its not necesary but much better with it than without it i experienced both

additionally when drifting without power steering, when you change direction of drift, the steering wheel yanks out of your hands pretty hard so be careful as i almost broke my fingers https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

dont wrap your thumbs...you will be in pain

After my last autocross, I say you can.

you can! jsut with a bit more muscle and more precise control, @apex-i dont wrap my thumbs fucker, i said fingers

I think its better not to have power steering, cos you have more control or knowledge of exactly which ways your tyres are pointing, but then... I drive a fb.

at least without it both your arms will get buff so people won't notice which arm you masturbate with..

I personally think it's easier to drift without power steering, because you can actually feel the road and feedback is a beautiful thing... unless you break some fingers

Wow, you can break your fingers? WTF! lol. cool. I'll have to try it tonight when it rains.

Guys we need to make Drifting a big thing here in the states. It's HUGE in Japan ... i think we could do it here. California, Florida, New York anywhere. I know a couple people that would drift with me. It really is an adrenilin rush.

im in NY (not for long) i drift when i take my car out, its really a rush but not many will go to that extent of driving as they are either scared or not skilled enough

Your either Drifting or out of control. I dont Think there's really a borderline in there.



It really is a great experience.

actually, drifting is being out of control just controlling it https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

lol, yes, well. It's a controled slide. Still AWESOME

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png I got into drifting while in japan and was schooled by one of the best im my area...you can drift without power steering but its more difficult...you need the power steering to keep the car on track and that is buy doing small quick wheel corrections..and power steering is a big help...doing it with out requires more skill in drifting and a mastery of you cars attitude in a drift.

i personally believe its a preference. Which ever grows on you will be the best for you. You can still know where your tires are with power steering if you are used to it. As for the masturbating problem, i just rotates arms. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif NOICE!!! yea its all preferance no matter how you look at it, i have no power steering as i removed it, but i would take it back as it was much easier back then

stupid vert wont drift............it just flexes and snaps out on me.lol





i cant drive too

ive never tryed in my vert i wonder if it will do the same? Guess i should find out before i start tearing it all down for the swap.

my car is a really tired shitbucket sep, you might have better luck



i also think that the nut behind the wheel is loose....

nah cmon nik we all know the problem your car has, and its anot uncommon this problem romas our streets all the time,

its the freaking gasket!!!! you know which one ,

its the most important gasket in the car the one between the steering wheel and the seat! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/boink.gif

ive never tryed in my vert i wonder if it will do the same? Guess i should find out before i start tearing it all down for the swap. [/quote]

Moght wanna get a roll bar incase it gets ugly..

No, you don't need the powersteering. I took mine out because I hated the feel of it. After a couple years without it, I'd never go back. After tons of autocrosses without it, it's not an issue anymore. Actually slides without it? Just as easy to control once you get used to it. Hell, even with powersteering it's next to impossible to control a slide if you don't know what you're doing. I haven't had any problems with the wheel messing my hands up. I just keep them clear of the wheel and let the caster straighten things out for me. So far no problems. But it is ultimitely up to personal preference. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

Well. rest assured it rained last night. And of course i went for a little drift session



My and my cousin Mike. (E30 M3) <--- VERY NICE



We go behind this Publix. there's a huge parking lot that is fresh paved awww, so sweet





So i'm doing some drifting for the first time since having my power steering off. Man, it's sweet.



I did however manage to jam my thumb. The wheel fliped back around and my hand happend to be there. I'll get use to it eventially



Somewhat off topic. But man that 88' M3 sure as hell can Drift. And she's quick as hell too. Beats my car off the line. But has a real low top end. she only seems to top out at 110 or so. And i can climb to around 130



Any way, i'm satisfied with drifing without power steering. Im sure i'll get use to it eventually.

haha keep those thimbs out of the way of the wheel, it has some force to it

i have both, 2 89's with and without PS. Boy, now that i got the the PS running in the cosmo, i can't tell you how much i missed it!! hahah. Keep in mind, S5 PS is a big improvment over S4 PS. I like the simplicity of not having it, but i think its easier to drive with it.