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ColinRX7 04-06-2004 12:54 AM

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Check it out guys.



PLEASE for the love of CRAP check out my photo albums cause I have a crapload of pictures of this stuff including sandblasting the engine bay, then the black primer, then the final super gloss black polyurethane paint.



Heres a teaser. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 12:56 AM

Oh yeah the link is in my signature to the nopistons.com gallery.



I'm so excited! You can see your reflection in EVERY part of the engine bay now!



Who remembers what it looked like before? WHO CARES go look in my gallery at what it did look like! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Dakmis 04-06-2004 01:17 AM

nice! now whenu park pop your hood to show it off every where u go

4RotorRocket 04-06-2004 04:58 AM

Looks wonderful a freshly painted bay is always nice to have.

Jims5543 04-06-2004 07:06 AM

Nice..... Hey!! your engine is missing!!

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Apr 6 2004, 04:06 AM
Nice..... Hey!! your engine is missing!!

Gimme a few weeks.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

i.didnt.do.it 04-06-2004 10:20 AM

Damn! Looks 100X better then before! ****** noice!

1Revvin7 04-06-2004 10:42 AM

Go into some details for us. Looks 1000x better.

I just resprayed my black t2 under the hood with a spray can, and while it does look good, its not shiny like that.. I think I need to buy some real paint.. How much did the paint run you?

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/ind...howtopic=38970

roadkill669 04-06-2004 10:53 AM

Nice job man. I cant wait to do that next week.

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 11:22 AM

It was sandblasted, then sanded with 400 grit. Primed with black urethane primer then super gloss black polyurethane black on top. It's aircraft grade paint. We use it on trailers at work (because you can hit the paint with chains and binders to tie down loads and the paint wont chip off so easy), so I managed to use some left over black that me and Dan mixed up to spray.



We used a big huge air compressor and dan sprayed it for me. I don't know who remembers but I was whining about missing my guitar I gave to Dan if he would use his skill to paint my car.



I'll post more pics.

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 11:26 AM

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Air compressor.



Has a John Deere engine. Makes 120lbs faster than you can say it.

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 11:29 AM

You have to mix reducer in with the paint.



It's a couple hundred bucks for a gallon of the polyurethane black, and I think a hundred bucks for the reducer.



Dan is the expert though, if you have any more technical questions I can ask him.

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 11:30 AM

Spray Spray!

boost_creep 04-06-2004 11:33 AM

Nice Job. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png I did mine with the rattle can stuff, came out kinda ok.

FiKsE l2X SeVeN Jr 04-06-2004 11:48 AM

looks nice

-=DRIFT=- 04-06-2004 12:04 PM

Dude, you are so the WIN!!!!11!!!!!11!!1!!1!1

rmaiersg 04-06-2004 12:19 PM

Looks slick, maing!

1Revvin7 04-06-2004 12:56 PM

Thxs Colin. Looks like I will just have to settle. I had my white fc repainted under the hood by a shop, they also had to scrub the car. Total cost was close to $700....

rx7kid2gtt 04-06-2004 01:35 PM

that pic give me a hard on! nice

9BASE3 04-06-2004 01:46 PM

VERY nice!

i.didnt.do.it 04-06-2004 01:53 PM

God damn! Thats an air compresser alright!

Rob x-7 04-06-2004 04:05 PM

paint with only reducer or was there activator?

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Apr 6 2004, 09:56 AM
Thxs Colin. Looks like I will just have to settle. I had my white fc repainted under the hood by a shop, they also had to scrub the car. Total cost was close to $700....

That's probably what I would have paid if I got someone else to sandblast paint and scrub the grease and oil off the chassis (which was all over the place from the leaky oil pan and front cover shown in my gallery as well).



Rob I'll ask Dan..



Thanks for the compliments guys. I'm ******' psyched about putting my car back together now.

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 04:32 PM

Dan said he did use reducer and activator.. I don't know the cost though.. It was his paint resources from work he used.. The prices I listed for reducer and the paint itself is just from what I saw filing invoices for other painted trailers at work.

mazdaspeed7 04-06-2004 04:33 PM

I can answer any questions on the paint. I use it all the time.



It requires a hardener, but doesnt always require a reducer. The two brands I use (Imron and Jetglo) dont need to be thinned. Just mix and paint. That paint goes on very well. Its much stickier than auto paint, and can be layed on thicker. The surface dries to the touch within a few hours, but the paint under the surface layer takes 3-4 days to dry. In that time, its still flowing, so when done right, that paint will me smooth as glass.



Not only does it make a super smooth surface thats tough as nails, it also never needs to be waxed. Just wash it wne its dirty.



Price? Imron is $250/gal and its not available to the general public. Jetglo is even harder to get, and more expensive, but I dont have an exact price on it.



Colin, that looks awesome. I cant wait to repaint my car.

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Apr 6 2004, 01:33 PM
The surface dries to the touch within a few hours, but the paint under the surface layer takes 3-4 days to dry.

Dan said this as well to me.. So I have the garage locked up and I'm not going in or out of there for another day or two just to be safe (considering it was done saturday).



Thanks for the compliment and posting the information!



I was curious though, how do you keep it shiny like this? I find on our freshly painted trailers, if you touch the paint with your finger, it leaves a glossy smear mark. I want to avoid that, but I'm not sure if the circumstance will be different because I'm allowing proper drying time as where trailers have a day or two tops before they are back out being loaded for duty. How can I keep this lusterous shine without getting smear marks from touching the paint?

mazdaspeed7 04-06-2004 05:05 PM

Dont touch the paint at all for 3-4 days if the temp is above 70 degrees F, or about a week if its below that. High humidity will also extend the drying time.

venomrx7 04-06-2004 08:33 PM

I want to go silver in the engine bay on mine. How could I do that? What paint would hold up, that can hold up to the abuse of being in an engine bay?



and it looks damn good colin!!!!!!!!

ColinRX7 04-06-2004 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Apr 6 2004, 02:05 PM
Dont touch the paint at all for 3-4 days if the temp is above 70 degrees F, or about a week if its below that. High humidity will also extend the drying time.

Leave it until this weekend then? Ambient temp around here has been anywhere from +5 C to -5 C.

mazdaspeed7 04-06-2004 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by venomrx7' date='Apr 6 2004, 09:33 PM
I want to go silver in the engine bay on mine. How could I do that? What paint would hold up, that can hold up to the abuse of being in an engine bay?



and it looks damn good colin!!!!!!!!

Urethane or polyurethane auto paint will hold up fine. Its whats on the car from the factory, and what is used when your car is painted by a shop. The aircraft grade polyurethane Colin used isnt exactly something you run to the corner paint store and pick up. Most of it isnt available to the general public, so you need to be in the business to get it.



If you do use aircraft grade stuff, be sure to follow the proper precautions. That stuff is really bad for your health. Much worse than auto paint. If you think Im kidding, do a search for Imron on google.

mazdaspeed7 04-06-2004 09:26 PM

One more thing I thought Id mention. That paint does not come off your skin if you let it dry. Ive got white specks all over my hand from painting this weekend.

BigTurbo74 04-06-2004 09:35 PM

take more pics outside of the garage! looks good though,.,,

Rob x-7 04-06-2004 10:34 PM

jetglo is pretty cheap, about $90 a gallon



If your paint is taking days to dry under normal

cicumstances something is wrong, I mean if its freezing out its

one thing, but after 24 hours if it still leaves finger marks

then perhaps you are putting the paint on and not allowing enough

flash time in between coats.

mazdaspeed7 04-06-2004 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Apr 6 2004, 11:34 PM
jetglo is pretty cheap, about $90 a gallon



If your paint is taking days to dry under normal

cicumstances something is wrong, I mean if its freezing out its

one thing, but after 24 hours if it still leaves finger marks

then perhaps you are putting the paint on and not allowing enough

flash time in between coats.

I thought Jetglo was more than that. If its that cheap, my car will soon be painted in Jetglo in its entirity.



Rob, have you used this paint before? You should know that the surface dries to the touch in 24-26 hours, but the paint is still flowing underneath, and is soft enough to take an impression from a finger for a few days after its painted. And the barely above freezing temps for Colin arent exactly helping to speed it up.

Rob x-7 04-06-2004 11:13 PM

I paint imron almost everyday, last month I personally

sprayed 11 gallons of imron



I think he means the smears from your fingers, maybe because

the surface is so clean that every finger print shows up, if they

dont wipe off with water then there might be something wrong

mazdaspeed7 04-06-2004 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Apr 7 2004, 12:13 AM
I paint imron almost everyday, last month I personally

sprayed 11 gallons of imron



I think he means the smears from your fingers, maybe because

the surface is so clean that every finger print shows up, if they

dont wipe off with water then there might be something wrong

Thats a lot of Imron....



I think what he was referring to was it leaving a fingerprint, not smearing the paint. If you leave a fingerprint on paint thats dry to the touch, but not completely dry, and dont wipe it off it can set into the paint. Ive had that happen before. Also, I havent tried it with Imron, but I know if you press down on Jetglow 2 days after it was sprayed, you can leave an impression on it still. In colins post, he specifically said the trailers usually only have a day, or two at the most to dry before theyre back in service. Thats definately too short of a time for the paint to dry completely, especially in Canada anytime except summer.



What do you do for a living? Im an aircraft machanic, but I specialize more in composite repair and painting than anything else.

Rob x-7 04-06-2004 11:30 PM

marine fiberglass repair/painting

Racer X 04-06-2004 11:51 PM

Looks nice.Now give it a month after the car runs to turn it brown in there.

ColinRX7 04-07-2004 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by Racer X' date='Apr 6 2004, 08:51 PM
Looks nice.Now give it a month after the car runs to turn it brown in there.

Theres no clearcoat to turn brown.



Good input from both Adam and Rob though. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Some newer painted trailers still leave smear marks from your fingers the next few times they are run through the shop (definately dry by now, regardless of how glassy the finish is). Those come off with water though? The trailers are in for service, so I guess I never really tried to get rid of the smear mark with anything other than a dry rag that was in my pocket. LOL.

Rob x-7 04-07-2004 06:04 AM

soap and water works even better


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