well a call to atkins made me awaer that the engine will not start in the s5 if the omp is not plugged in??.. well your thinking "just plug it in" but there is a prob i am runing an s4 engine block with the manual omp and not the electric one, so is there any way to trick the computer in thinking it is plugged in???? without killing the s5 omp????

Yeah. Just plug the pump into your S5 harness and tie it off to the bumper or something. It doesnt actually have to pump anything...Just have it connected to the harness and it will be ok. If you really wanted to hide it somewhere, you could even extend the wires and put it up under your from bumper or something.

um try to utilize the problem without useing the pump...... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

if in the futer i was to replace the pump mazdatrix whants 1,300 dallors for one,

so you see my concern with hurting it,

I don't know the specifics and I can't find the webpage right now but there is a resistor you can use looping it back from one connector to another to fool the computer into thinking it has an oil metering pump. I don't know what rating of resistor and I don't know which two connectors on the harness. I will keep looking and post it if I can find it again.

First off, I dont know what the hell youre saying. Learn to spell and how to properly use words.



Second off, Im telling you how to fix it. Just get an S5 OMP and plug it into the harness and then tie it away underneat a bumper or something. If you dont have an S5 OMP, I can sell you mine that I pulled when I installed the Haltech.

well first off i was'nt being rude, and i know that your are trying to help, and 3 i don't give a **** how i spell......

First off, I dont know what the hell youre saying. Learn to spell and how to properly use words.



Second off, Im telling you how to fix it. Just get an S5 OMP and plug it into the harness and then tie it away underneat a bumper or something. If you dont have an S5 OMP, I can sell you mine that I pulled when I installed the Haltech. [/quote]

he was saying he doesnt want to run the pump without it pumping anything for fear of breaking it that way and if in the future he wants to use it mazdatrix wants $1,300 for a new one.



it really wasnt that difficult to interpret.



kevin.

First off, I dont know what the hell youre saying. Learn to spell and how to properly use words.



Second off, Im telling you how to fix it. Just get an S5 OMP and plug it into the harness and then tie it away underneat a bumper or something. If you dont have an S5 OMP, I can sell you mine that I pulled when I installed the Haltech. [/quote]

he was saying he doesnt want to run the pump without it pumping anything for fear of breaking it that way and if in the future he wants to use it mazdatrix wants $1,300 for a new one.



it really wasnt that difficult to interpret.



kevin. [/quote]

I guess your reading comprehension skills are just a notch above mine.

I have a working s5 OMP if you need one...... 75.00

Simple solution.....





screw all of that mess and get a standalone.



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yup...I couldn't agree more....All problems solved and life is alot simpler.. It takes a bit of time to get a stand alone dialed in, but I love its simplicity

i dunno standalone is a pain in the ass. you should have swapped front covers on your S4 engine then no more problems

First off, I dont know what the hell youre saying. Learn to spell and how to properly use words.



Second off, Im telling you how to fix it. Just get an S5 OMP and plug it into the harness and then tie it away underneat a bumper or something. If you dont have an S5 OMP, I can sell you mine that I pulled when I installed the Haltech. [/quote]

he was saying he doesnt want to run the pump without it pumping anything for fear of breaking it that way and if in the future he wants to use it mazdatrix wants $1,300 for a new one.



it really wasnt that difficult to interpret.



kevin. [/quote]

Oh, there you go! Let's encourage apathetic dumbasses to post incomprehensible **** so we can play games trying to figure out what the hell they're trying to say. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



It's called English. Study up, then come back and post. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

You should just run a mechanical OMP pump w/ a different front cover...thats your best option.... unless, you get a stand alone ecu...don't bother plug'n in that other BS..



Stand alone ecu: pain in the ass? pain in the ass is the stock Mazda ecu junk that will eventually fail...been there. Now granted, stand alones aren't for everyone, but when I got mine i was lost and it took some time to get it right, but in my opinion its way less complicated. of course its just one mans opinion https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



I had s5 OMP problems before I got smart...stupid code 27/limp home mode BS... The way I understand that s5 OMP's when bad, will short out the N-370 ecu's...per Chris Ott @ RP, TX...and thats what happened to me. and in the garbage can it went.



anyway....

First off, I dont know what the hell youre saying. Learn to spell and how to properly use words.



Second off, Im telling you how to fix it. Just get an S5 OMP and plug it into the harness and then tie it away underneat a bumper or something. If you dont have an S5 OMP, I can sell you mine that I pulled when I installed the Haltech. [/quote]

he was saying he doesnt want to run the pump without it pumping anything for fear of breaking it that way and if in the future he wants to use it mazdatrix wants $1,300 for a new one.



it really wasnt that difficult to interpret.



kevin. [/quote]

Oh, there you go! Let's encourage apathetic dumbasses to post incomprehensible **** so we can play games trying to figure out what the hell they're trying to say. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



It's called English. Study up, then come back and post. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif [/quote]

WHOOOAAAAA.....starting to sound like the other forum:(



Just ask him to restat the problem.



Ok, so you have a S5 ecu with a S4 front cover? S5 ECU needs to see that S5 MOP to not give you a code and criple the car.



Find out how to trick it. Maybe you can take out the electric internals of your pump. And put that i a smaller project box. That way you do not need to have the whole pump in there.



James

WHOOOAAAAA.....starting to sound like the other forum:(



Just ask him to restat the problem.



[/quote]

Okay, so excuse me for venting.



It's just when people revel in their own ignorance, well it gets me riled up.



Now what's this about the "other forum?" What other forum? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...

Its a complex circuit that checks itself. Put simply, unless youre an electrical engineer, its impossible. You have to have the OMP present, and the sensor must give the proper reading relative to the position of the stepper motor. If not, you get an error code, and limp home mode. Get an OMP, plug it in, and put it somewhere.

WHOOOAAAAA.....starting to sound like the other forum:(



Just ask him to restat the problem.



[/QUOTE]

Okay, so excuse me for venting.



It's just when people revel in their own ignorance, well it gets me riled up.



Now what's this about the "other forum?" What other forum? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub... [/quote]

when we revel in our OWN ignorance?



keep track of who posts what.



i interpretted what someone else wrote, how he wrote it was not my ignorance, the inability to comprehend was the ignorance of someone else.



enjoy.



kevin.

yeah, the resitance the ecu expaects to see changes with rpm and load, so 1 resistor doesnt work



mike

to set things a straight.. i grew up in a red neck town.. so my grammar is not all that great.. and i bad cas of add does not help either....

i actually have an s5 front cover and mop, i was just trying to use the same front cover...



clicks spell "spell check" https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/*******.gif

First off, I dont know what the hell youre saying. Learn to spell and how to properly use words.



Second off, Im telling you how to fix it. Just get an S5 OMP and plug it into the harness and then tie it away underneat a bumper or something. If you dont have an S5 OMP, I can sell you mine that I pulled when I installed the Haltech. [/quote]

he was saying he doesnt want to run the pump without it pumping anything for fear of breaking it that way and if in the future he wants to use it mazdatrix wants $1,300 for a new one.



it really wasnt that difficult to interpret.



kevin. [/quote]

Oh, there you go! Let's encourage apathetic dumbasses to post incomprehensible **** so we can play games trying to figure out what the hell they're trying to say. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



It's called English. Study up, then come back and post. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif [/quote]

all i have to say is.... tihs fo eceip taf uoy......

here comprehend that, and um your..... uh....your car is slow?

n/m not even worth it.

looking over the childish bs i appreciate all the info, and i am just going to run the s5 front cover and mop....

thanks....