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Comitatus 04-24-2004 05:28 PM

Does anyone know of how to get all the necessary hardware for putting a motor back into the car.

I have just recently pulled the motor and I figured I would try to find all new nuts and bolts so that I wouldnt have to reuse the old rusty ones.



I would basically need every nut and bolt possible that could be on the motor.



Do you think mazda sells a kit or something??



Any info or ideas would be great....

Comitatus 04-24-2004 08:25 PM

^^Bump^^

DJ Blu 04-24-2004 08:39 PM

i had heard of a kit, but i havent' been able to find one. It would def be worth some cash if there was one out there

Comitatus 04-25-2004 12:56 AM

Yeah..i defintely wish and Hope that I can find one!!!

Nan da yo! 04-25-2004 08:20 AM

Cheap parts car? lol

Rob x-7 04-25-2004 01:34 PM

get a bench grinder with a wire wheel and clean the

bolts you have.



a metric tap and die set will clean the threads of the

nuts nicely as well

Comitatus 04-25-2004 02:01 PM


get a bench grinder with a wire wheel and clean the

bolts you have.



a metric tap and die set will clean the threads of the

nuts nicely as well


I might have to give that a try.....



but would prefer just to buy all new nuts and bolts...

Rob x-7 04-25-2004 02:04 PM

it would be nice if there was a kit, but if there

isnt good luck



or you can buy a tumbler and clean everything all at once

DJ Blu 04-25-2004 03:26 PM

yeah... hint hint if some store or somebody were able to gather a kit together there would probably be tons of people willing to pick one up. It would make everything much easier.

89 Rag 04-25-2004 03:32 PM

There's no kit made, you can cleanup and replate what you have.

Comitatus 04-25-2004 11:26 PM


There's no kit made, you can cleanup and replate what you have.


Well that sucks....



Yep Somebody needs to come up with a kit....I know I would pay for a kit...



If I knew the quantity and the sizes, I would put one together myself...Anyone know that information??

FrostRacing 04-26-2004 02:30 PM

if its just external engine parts ie: intake write down what you need or bring spare nuts and bolts that fit to a hardware store. as for banjo bolt and tension bolts give mazda a call and get what you need

RETed 04-26-2004 02:54 PM

Uh, you willing to pay $100's from Mazda for brand new bolts???







-Ted

FrostRacing 04-27-2004 12:42 PM

i found that mazda is way cheaper if You get a business license. I was getting things at cost, then the manager came in and stopped that and told me if i get a license i could set up a account and he would let me get parts at cost. It has saved me a ton of money

Comitatus 04-28-2004 08:57 AM


i found that mazda is way cheaper if You get a business license. I was getting things at cost, then the manager came in and stopped that and told me if i get a license i could set up a account and he would let me get parts at cost. It has saved me a ton of money


So mazda does have a complete kit, or would I just order the individual nuts and bolts individually??

If I had to order individually, I think I would just go to a hardware store, but if they had a kit, I would think about doing that.

j9fd3s 04-28-2004 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by Comitatus' date='Apr 28 2004, 05:57 AM
So mazda does have a complete kit, or would I just order the individual nuts and bolts individually??

If I had to order individually, I think I would just go to a hardware store, but if they had a kit, I would think about doing that.

you have to order individually, they dont really do kits for anything

Comitatus 04-28-2004 09:48 AM

Alrighty....I need to try to call Mazda to find out the quanity of each part, then off to the hardware store...



Thanks guys

marcus7 04-28-2004 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Comitatus' date='Apr 28 2004, 06:48 AM
Alrighty....I need to try to call Mazda to find out the quanity of each part, then off to the hardware store...

You're going to call some poor dealer parts department clerk and ask how many, what grade, and what size for every nut and bolt on a 13b block . . . . . .



Even if the clerk has the patience of Job, I have very serious doubts that any Mazda parts department clerk has access to that type of information. If they use the same microfiche that everyone else has, the fiche will state the part number, but that part number does not specify grade or size.



I believe you will have to personally inventory the parts required.

Comitatus 04-28-2004 02:14 PM

Well....



Never hurts to try I guess...I have a pretty good relationship with the parts boys down at my local shop.( I don't just deal with the "clerk") So we'll see...If not, then I will find a way.



Will=Way

RETed 04-28-2004 02:40 PM

You're going to end up pissing them off...





-Ted

psyclo 04-28-2004 02:48 PM

Theres only so many types of bolts. I think my Haynes manual even has all the types litsted in front. I plan on just going to the hardware store and picking up new SS bolts of all IM bolts when I finaly get it all cleaned up. Will be a bit pricy but the bolts look like ass and are kinda rusty.

Comitatus 04-28-2004 02:56 PM


Theres only so many types of bolts. I think my Haynes manual even has all the types litsted in front. I plan on just going to the hardware store and picking up new SS bolts of all IM bolts when I finaly get it all cleaned up. Will be a bit pricy but the bolts look like ass and are kinda rusty.


Agreed...



Ill have to check the Haynes when i get home...



Then I won't have to piss anyone off https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Rob x-7 04-28-2004 04:11 PM

ss bolts cant be used anywhere, they arent that strong, grade 5 is

stronger then SS bolts, grade 8 even stronger.



I think what you mean is you want someone to supply

you with new bolts and tell you which ones go where.

Go to a GOOD auto parts store and get boxes of new metric

bolts. If you know a shop owner as them to hook you up

with the guy who supplies thier hardware, they normally have

a service that comes in and stocks all thier hardware weekly.



in the end, it would just be easier to clean what you have, a tumbler

or even a wire wheel on a bench grinder will work wonders.

marcus7 04-28-2004 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Comitatus' date='Apr 28 2004, 11:14 AM
Never hurts to try I guess...I have a pretty good relationship with the parts boys down at my local shop.( I don't just deal with the "clerk") So we'll see...If not, then I will find a way.

You may be missing the point. You could be dealing directly with the owner of that dealership. The person’s status at the dealership doesn’t matter. The question is where is whomever going to get the information you’re looking for? For example; on an 89, the nut that holds the exhaust manifold to the block is part number 2158-40-355 (same part for either a TII or an NA). What size, thread pitch, and grade is that nut? The fiche is what's used to determine the replacement parts. The fiche doesn’t supply the information you are requesting. What source will the “individual” use to supply you with the information you are requesting?

banzaitoyota 04-28-2004 05:01 PM

Haynes does not list the sizes of the fasteners either. LISTEN!

Comitatus 04-28-2004 09:28 PM


Haynes does not list the sizes of the fasteners either. LISTEN!


You're right...doesnt list the sizes...



I didnt say i was RUNNING out to get SS bolts..i just figured i would go buy a surplus of what i needed from a hardware store or car shop. but that was only if i could find the info i needed...

DJ Blu 04-28-2004 09:36 PM

you would think that a company like atkins or pineapple, which probably needs tons of replacement bolts would have compiled a list of everything and then perhaps even a kit to sell along w/their rebuild kits. I'm suprised they havent, cuz it would def be worth some extra money to me, not to need to worry about being as careful.

TheCamel 04-29-2004 07:20 AM

Ok let me ask you this, are you looking for every bolt in the engine, or just the exterior bolts to make it pretty? I planned on doing a kit like this similar to the small block chevy kits, but I have not had anytime to gather up all of the bolts to do it yet

psyclo 04-29-2004 09:32 AM

I know I will be replacing many of the maniold bolts. Because of looks and condition of some of the bolts.

Comitatus 04-29-2004 11:18 AM


Ok let me ask you this, are you looking for every bolt in the engine, or just the exterior bolts to make it pretty? I planned on doing a kit like this similar to the small block chevy kits, but I have not had anytime to gather up all of the bolts to do it yet


Basically either or....If there was a kit for "everything in the engine", it would be a plus, but if its only the exterior bolts, then that is just fine for me. I would get that, and then just replace the others as I went.



Definitely let me know if you want to make a kit, I would be in line...



Thanks

RX7 13B 4 UR AZZ 04-29-2004 09:04 PM

There is a place here in miami that is called Miami Nuts & Bolts. They have every nut and bolt imaginable they even have bolts that look like ******* base ball bats. They got all size's thread picthes and lengthes you go there with a macthing bolt and they give you the same bolt X however many you need.

Comitatus 04-29-2004 09:37 PM

Ahhhh....The Joys of Miami... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blush.png

Cheers! 04-29-2004 10:22 PM

mcmaster-carr



we have aplace local called brafasco, it's an insdustrial supply shop.


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