ok, i have an 87 NA, true dual exhaust, intake, pineapple 5/6 sleeves.. now im going to build a motor. i realize the exhaust will have to be changed, i had planned on an expansion chamber to replace the midpipe.
i want to build a 4 port NA, but im not positive what kind of port i want to use. my plans are: -S4 TII short block -S4 NA rotors -TII intake manifold (shorter runners, plan on porting what i can) -mazda 2 piece seals (doing some research on 1 piece seals, but i cant find a retailer..) -will probably switch to TII tranny (rear end too if i can find one) -microtech LT8 but i cant decide if i want to do a large/extended street port or if i want to build a full bridge motor. im not sure about driveability of a full bridge, because i do a lot of interstate driving (about 1000 miles a month). i read that at a set RPM the air velocity was low and the car would 'hunt' and make it jumpy. there is also the durability, a full bridge just isnt going to last as long as a proper street port. part of the reason im building a 4 port is because of the large ports, and simplicity porting them, no 5/6 ports to complicate timing. later on, since ill have a full TII drivetrain and a stand alone anyway, i can put a turbo on it and just run conservatively with the higher compression NA rotors. thats IF i get a big horsepower bug. ill probably end up bringing up my honda to do all my interstate driving anyway, i dont want to log all my miles up a new motor just cruising on the interstate https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png so lets here some educated opinions on this. |
If its staying NA (at least at first), why dont u use S5 rotors and e-shaft for more compression and lighter rotating mass? you may lose a little torque down low with large, open exhaust ports, but up high it should be great. Id personally go with a street-port, just b/c it is less extreme and more streetable, plus, it will last long enough in street driving for you to figure out if you want a turbo.
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Go half bridge, more power than a street port, more reliable then a full bridge...
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i had planned on S4 NA rotors because theyre available, and they arent too much higher than S5 TII.. (9.4 versus 9.0) and i dont want to crack the engine open again later on to change the rotors and front weight, id basically be rebuilding it again.
and now that i think about it, there are two stock S4 turbos available to me.. if i go standalone anyway, all i ahve to do is put the turbo on. im going to use 550s and a turbo fuel pump anyway... if any of the turbos are in useable shape i may just build it turbo from the get go.. damn. now i feel like ive wasted time. anyway. i think i want to try out a 'built' (relatively anyway) NA before i turbo it though. anymore input? |
i like it. id do the street port, and sorta plan on the turbo eventually going on the car. 9.4 turbo should be pretty nice.
if you've got 2 s4 turbos available, build em both, and run both https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png |
RB has 1piece seals but there pointless. Use OEM seals!
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i meant just the turbo, not the whole engine https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
why are 1 piece pointless? no corner bit to gouge the edge of the housings. i would imagine they would seal QUITE as well, but whatever. |
Horrid sealing bad leakdown more chatter. Basicly what is good about them? They dont fall into the port on a full bridge??
OEM only if you ask me. Preferably 3piece |
well. i rode the dyno today. horrible let down.
i made only about 10-12hp over stock (well, gutted cats). i put a cone filter on, pineapple sleeve inserts, and a custome true dual exhaust. it all comes down to tuning really. im about to buy a microtech LT8 from my roommate, so we'll see. i have to wait another 8 weeks for the class to be in the dyno room again, so maybe ill have my engine built by then. |
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