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EnayEx7 10-08-2011 07:18 PM

So what really is the difference between the n/a and t2 tbs?



well lets start off by stating that the t2 tb is basically an upside down n/a tb. besides the obvious position of the tps and throttle cable mount, there really isnt that much of a difference between the 2? WRONG



having an old ported n/a tb i decided to see if it could be some use to the t2. i carefully inspected both tbs and found out that the primary butter flies open in the opposite direction. the t2 primary butterflies open downwards while the upside down n/a open upwards. let me further elaborate.



text pics too lazy to use paint http://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/scratchhead.gif



diagram of airflow from tb to uim plenums



( ) = intake plenums

>^ = airflow

/ = n/a tb butterly in opening position

\ = t2 tb butterfly in opening position







n/a

( )

^

^

> /





t/2

( )

^

^

> \ turbulence?





it clearly shows that the way the butterflies open on the n/a tb primary side, the one winged butterfly side which is the one with only one hole in the tb, moves the air TOWARDS the intake plenums which means less restricion and better throttle response. the t2 tb, on the other hand, moves the air away from it and could cause some turbulence.



so why go through all the trouble modding the tb? because throttle response is king on a rotary!http://www.rx7club.com/images/smilie...y-evilgrin.gif



will it work? whats your opinion? im still a noob at this rotary thing...http://www.rx7club.com/images/smilies/scratchhead.gif



ive already searched this up and found nothing.

RicerJ 10-09-2011 12:00 AM

the pix arent allowed from 7club

EnayEx7 10-09-2011 05:12 PM

what pics?

1988RedT2 10-09-2011 05:53 PM

The images you linked.



I've got no experience with any TB except the stock one on my T2.

EnayEx7 10-09-2011 06:18 PM

ok heres the t2 uim... see how the intake plenums go up meaning the air flows up?



http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/5897/t2tb.jpg



here is the t2 tb. see how the top/primary hole opens downwards away from the intake plenum? wouldnt that cause slight wind turbulence?

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1530/t2tbbutterfly.jpg



now here is the n/a tb. the butterfly would cause the air to move upwards TOWARDS the plenums instead of downwards away from it.



http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6136/natba.jpg

mazdaspeed7 10-09-2011 07:03 PM

At full throttle, the difference is negligible. At part throttle, you arent looking for max flow anyways. Doesnt look like much of an issue to me.


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