In what ways can rpms be increased and what kinda increases would i be looking at? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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just to help you find a good answer you might be looking for....what exactly are you talking about.......rev limit or making the rpms faster?
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an actual higher rpm range ya know, faster would probably be hand in hand but i think thats clear if not ill try to explain it better
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the engine is ok up to about 8500rpms, but the power peaks @6500. so you need a good exhaust, maybe a little porting, better ecu, and the stock intake manifolds prolly need to go too
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thats just going to increase the power curve right? so those rpms are actually useful
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Originally Posted by ExplicitRotary' post='841793' date='Oct 20 2006, 08:15 AM
thats just going to increase the power curve right? so those rpms are actually useful yeah, we were revving the racecar to 9400, it didnt make power that high up, but it let us stay in 3rd, vs shifting to 4th for 100feet |
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a P-poort witll rev to 11K no problem !!!
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Originally Posted by KompressorLOgic' post='841965' date='Oct 21 2006, 04:46 AM
a P-poort witll rev to 11K no problem !!! A p port? i dont know all the porting names, but im almost positive no one around here works on rotaries. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.gif and will that 11k still be in power curve or is it just useless rpms? |
Originally Posted by ExplicitRotary' post='842024' date='Oct 21 2006, 03:06 PM
A p port? i dont know all the porting names, but im almost positive no one around here works on rotaries. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub..._DIR#>/sad.gif and will that 11k still be in power curve or is it just useless rpms? stock engines peak @6500, stock. with a good intake/exhaust it moves up a little 6800-7200 a street port is vauge enough, that you could get power to peak anywhere from 6500-8500, depending on the size/timing of the ports+ the rest of the setup. a bridge port is also a little vauge, theres enough variety, where you're looking at between 8000-12+ power peak. a peripheral port is a little less vauge, they are "simpler" depending more on the intake and exhaust setup, and how big your balls are they can make power from 8-9k to 12-13k. making the engine live @10k+ is the trick.... |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='842106' date='Oct 22 2006, 09:28 AM
a peripheral port is a little less vauge, they are "simpler" depending more on the intake and exhaust setup, and how big your balls are they can make power from 8-9k to 12-13k. making the engine live @10k+ is the trick.... At that point its just a matter of dealing with seal chatter correct? |
Originally Posted by JimmySal' post='842120' date='Oct 22 2006, 12:16 PM
At that point its just a matter of dealing with seal chatter correct? the eshaft bends, stationary gears break, tension bolts snap, etc etc |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='842184' date='Oct 23 2006, 10:48 AM
the eshaft bends, stationary gears break, tension bolts snap, etc etc All that sounds lovely is there stuff i can do to prevent that, like build the motor stronger? |
You need an experienced engine builder to set you up. It will be hard to get everything you need from a forum.
Bearing clearances become critical, oil pressures and flow need to be adressed, and bigger compramises need to be made. The intake manifold is mainly why the N/A drops off at 6500. Its optimized to make up some low end. The ports are only part of the game. |
Originally Posted by ExplicitRotary' post='842201' date='Oct 23 2006, 11:53 AM
All that sounds lovely is there stuff i can do to prevent that, like build the motor stronger? yeah there are fixes for all that but like ronin said you have to really pay attention to the details, and then buy all the parts $$$$$$ |
Ya thats my main problem at the moment, im gonna sell my N/A hopefully over the winter and buy a TII
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Originally Posted by ExplicitRotary' post='842317' date='Oct 24 2006, 12:19 PM
Ya thats my main problem at the moment, im gonna sell my N/A hopefully over the winter and buy a TII turbo is nice, cause you dont need to spin it faster, rpm ruins peoples motors.... |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='842346' date='Oct 24 2006, 06:19 PM
turbo is nice, cause you dont need to spin it faster, rpm ruins peoples motors.... so if i get a TII i shouldnt bother bringing the rpms real high? What would be the best things to do to get a TII moving fast |
Originally Posted by ExplicitRotary' post='842453' date='Oct 25 2006, 01:22 PM
so if i get a TII i shouldnt bother bringing the rpms real high? What would be the best things to do to get a TII moving fast stock t2 peaks around 6k.... you need a 3" exhaust, hybrid turbo, larger injectors, fuel pump, ecu.... |
Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='842473' date='Oct 25 2006, 06:51 PM
stock t2 peaks around 6k.... you need a 3" exhaust, hybrid turbo, larger injectors, fuel pump, ecu.... What would usually be a good injector size? I think im aiming for about 300whp and when im done what kinda rpms can yuo get out of a TII or is it better off not bringing the rpms up any? |
oh and ecu the Haltech E6X that pretty much covers everything right? will let me tune aswell?
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