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RE_GTR 12-26-2003 12:04 AM

I planned to get my first car, a 2nd gen RX-7 n/a. It's going to be a daily driven car. But everytime I think about winter, I can sorta picture the rx-7 spinning around.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif . I'm an amature at driving, or lets just say no one taught me how to drive yet... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif . Since you guys are expert 7's drivers, hows the handling on snow? If its quite difficult for a beginner, then I might go towards a different car... which I dont want to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

RONIN FC 12-26-2003 12:20 AM

I hate to tell you, but the FC in the snow is NOT for beginners. Not that it cant be driven, but some experience nesessary. I wouldnt even suggest you get an fc for a first car, because it handles so well and with that good handeling and the higher speeds, your raising the stakes in case of a collision.



Give yourself two years, buy a Honda or a Hyundai 5 spd.

1Revvin7 12-26-2003 12:27 AM

Not a good idea.

CrassFC3S 12-26-2003 11:03 AM

SPEED KILLS!!!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png buy a dirty ******* old beater for your first car, daily driver and learn how to drive under normal circumstances and in your free time go to HUGE open paved areas and start learn more advanced techniques like counter steering , put yourself in situations where you will need to learn how to correct your steering, over correcting or under correcting could kill ya https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif but in a big open space you dont have anything to worry about but the cops. start learning how to initiate slides by going a decent speed and turning the wheel slightly and pulling the e-brake, as soon as you feel the ass flying steer the opposite way of the slide... fun stuff learning is!!! fc's are not snow cars

Rob x-7 12-26-2003 11:52 AM

I see no harm in a N/A FC as a daily driver.

If it snows a few times a year in his area its no big deal, some all season

tires and maybe a bag of sand behind each seat will improve snow

driving.



I wouldnt go driving a mint condition low mileage one, but considering

alot of FCs are an engine failure away from being parted out why not.

4RotorRocket 12-26-2003 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by RE_GTR' date='Dec 25 2003, 10:04 PM
I planned to get my first car, a 2nd gen RX-7 n/a. It's going to be a daily driven car. But everytime I think about winter, I can sorta picture the rx-7 spinning around.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif . I'm an amature at driving, or lets just say no one taught me how to drive yet... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif . Since you guys are expert 7's drivers, hows the handling on snow? If its quite difficult for a beginner, then I might go towards a different car... which I dont want to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

I found this out the hard way I got a TII for my very first car.Now im saving up for a beater to drive in the winter and its so hard because I keep buying TII parts instead.Anyway the first day it snowed this year I went out to see how the TII handled in the snow beacause this is my 1st winter since ive owned the car.On my 4th turn my seven hit some ice and the rear end broke loose and spun into a telephone poll.Good thing I wasn't going fast the only damage is a little scratch and the bottom of my left S5 tail is chipped.Since then I never drove it again in snow.If you had some snow tires than maybe it will be a lil different but even if you hit ice with those you can lose controll.If you end up getting this car just get some snow tires and drive as slow as possible.Don't attempt no kiddyish fish tailing and donuts cause that **** leads to trouble.I probly would of been dead right now or had my car wrecked if I was doing that stupid ****...think again.Good luck.



-Aaron



P.S - A N/A should be alot easier to drive in the snow but still...**** can happen. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/tongue.png

1988RedT2 12-26-2003 12:01 PM

I'm agreeing with Rob on this one. Any rear-drive car is going to be more of a challenge to drive in the snow than a front-driver, but that's a good thing. I don't think you should dumb yourself down by driving a Honda just because it snows a couple, three times a year. Sure, if you're stupid, you could kill yourself, but hey, you can do that with any car. I think the RX-7 will make you a better driver if you're a intelligent person, or kill you if you're a retard. Either way, it's a win-win. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

4RotorRocket 12-26-2003 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by 1988RedT2' date='Dec 26 2003, 10:01 AM
I'm agreeing with Rob on this one. Any rear-drive car is going to be more of a challenge to drive in the snow than a front-driver, but that's a good thing. I don't think you should dumb yourself down by driving a Honda just because it snows a couple, three times a year. Sure, if you're stupid, you could kill yourself, but hey, you can do that with any car. I think the RX-7 will make you a better driver if you're a intelligent person, or kill you if you're a retard. Either way, it's a win-win. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I agree with that also.

NCGNETO90 12-26-2003 12:12 PM

Mine do alrightbut thats because i always have awesome tires. But this year i am going to use my DeVille. I dont have good tires and the truth is i just don't trust my 7's in the snow. But of course Boise isn't getting any snow as of right now. lol

Hadoken 12-26-2003 01:29 PM

I plan on getting a 7 too and I don't have much driving experience but it only snows like 2 times a year here, so snow isn't that much of a problem, are there any other reasons to start out with another car besides the RX? Besides the gas mileage isn't so good to drive to college every day...I really want a 7 but if I have to get a daily driver I'm leaning towards a 91-93 240sx hatch...Not trying to take over the thread but, any opinions?

mazdadrifter 12-26-2003 02:34 PM

if you know how to control youself it is a capable car. I can't tell you how many times I drove by wrecked mustangs/ caprices on the interstate in my 7. It's kindof tuff to get going, because it really doesn't have enought weight to get good grip. But once it's going it's about as easy to control as any other car out there.



Just make sure your tires have some tread.

PrimeredRacer 12-26-2003 02:50 PM

Ya i jsut picked up a 7 and planned on drivin it this winter but it dont sound like it now thanks guys

Rob x-7 12-26-2003 06:56 PM

when these cars were new do you think all people who lived where

it snowed didnt drive them and had multiple cars or stayed home

that day?

pengaru 12-26-2003 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Dec 27 2003, 12:56 AM
when these cars were new do you think all people who lived where

it snowed didnt drive them and had multiple cars or stayed home

that day?

they were kindof pricy as new sports cars at the time, it wouldnt surprise me if the people who bought them new and lived in areas that got real snow had winter beaters to drive.



for example, I bought a $900 protege to drive in the winter because i don't give a **** about it, and i'm not exactly wealthy. The nice car sleeps in a garage while the salt trucks do their worse.

Fluid Dynamics 12-27-2003 12:25 AM

Ha ha, exactly Peng. My fc is bad enough on wet pavement. The car is too light and the tires too bald and wide to avoid hydroplaning over any puddle when on the highway. It gets scary some times. I'm shopping for a beater. Here's one . . fwd and underpowered . .

Nemesis 12-27-2003 12:43 AM

It's simply a matter of learning to control your car. My first car was a Chevelle SS and I lived in Philly. When the streets were slick, from rain, snow, or ice. The car would fishtail wildly with just the mear pressing of the gas pedal. I would just take it slow, until I felt comfortably in control of the vehicle. I spent a couple of days in snow filled parking lots really learning how to control the car without being a danger to other people or their vehicles. There would be as many trucks and FWD cars strnded on the side of the road as their were RWD cars. I would laugh as I drove by them. I made it from VT to PA in my old Thunderbird SC during a blizzard in the early 1990's, all the roads were closed the govener declared a "state of emergency" or some ****. Cars littered on the sides of the road every where, but my crappy RWD car made it through 4 states because I took my time, kept control of my car and was aware of my surroundings.



FC's aren't exactly exotics that need to be garaged when the slightest bit of bad weather comes. Take your vehicle out and learn how to control it properly and you won't have any issues. It's generally the other drivers I have to worry about.



There is no reason you can't drive an FC in the winter. Buy some snow tires if you're that concerned and put them on some spare wheels. Quite a bit cheaper than buying, maintaining, and insuring another car.

89Turbo944 12-27-2003 02:06 AM

Well I say that you buy the RX7 and try driving it. The only way you will learn how to drive it in the snow.



If you do crash it, which you most likly will you just made my FC that much more valuable.



Good luck and drive safly!

4RotorRocket 12-27-2003 09:07 AM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif Get the car....just be carefull https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

FCmaniac 12-27-2003 10:15 AM

just get a spare set of rims with good snow tires if you can afford it... cheaper than buying another car.

CrashFactory 12-27-2003 10:58 AM

I disagree with you all, My 87 N/A was the BEST car in the snow i've driven so far, it's a 1000x's easier to drive in the snow than my Blazer, i never once went off the road or slid way out of control in it, and i've been in the ditch twice in my Blazer and spun it completely around once, i had a 200lb speaker box over the rear axle and it never slid too much, as long as i started slow and slowed down real slow..https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Sean

tancred 12-27-2003 12:01 PM

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Well, yeah....This is my current snow situation, and my car isnt going to touch the road....i have a pos jeep cherokee for a reason.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683473.gif

Rob x-7 12-27-2003 12:22 PM

some parts of the country insurance becomes a factor when

considering a winter beater, some people just cannot

afford the additional expense. Some people cannot park another

car at thier house



obviously the deciding factor is where you live, if it snows every

week then the answer is obvious, if it snows once in a while or

the roads only get a dusting then you can deal with it.

A NA FC is no problem in some snow, obvious not a *******

blizzard.

pengaru 12-27-2003 03:13 PM

I don't mind driving in snow at all, and I have driven the FC in snow and it wasnt that bad for a rwd car with lsd and a clutch that is binary (on/off). The thing is, around here they put down so much salt you get out in the morning and the streets look like they are covered with snow til your eyes clear up and you realize the pavement is white and dry, all salt.



Any car you care about, invest any time or money in making look & perform nice, should not be exposed to this crap if you can manage it.



If they don't salt by you, then ****, have fun driving sideways.

teknics 12-28-2003 12:07 AM

meh i learned how to drive in bad conditions, you gotta focus on driving and your surroundings not on your destination or how late you're going to be.



first snowfall of the year by me was a blizzard i took my t2 out and made it down and up some hills that no one else could, i also predicted and witnessed plenty of crashes, i just puttered along in 1st/2nd and got to my destination safely and warm.



kevin.

rxheaven86 01-26-2004 02:01 PM

you know kevin is right...



just be careful.. **** my fc was the first stick that i had and the first car i had that wasn't a pos honda that was 500 bucks or less... and yeah i spun it the first day i had it and learned how to drive it in the snow right from the day i got it... if you just take it easy and don't fly around with snow on the ground you'll be fine...



oh and by the way don't try to downshift before a patch of snow... i found out that black ice is a bitch



and hell to be honest with you my fc is alot better than alot of other cars for me in the snow... i knew people were getting stuck in my neighborhood on hills and **** and i passed an escalade that the kid up the street owns because he was stuck on the hill spinning wheels... and i just drove right by no problem...



hell it's not like the fc doesn't have any weight on the rear wheels

pengaru 01-27-2004 12:35 PM

This picture summarizes why it's plain stupid to drive a car you want to keep for many years in the snow.



The protege I bought for a winter beater had no rust on it when I bought it, just yesterday I noticed the paint bubbling and some rust forming on the inside bottom edge of the drivers side door, glad it's not the fc. That GTP is a coworkers winter beater.

Erik 01-27-2004 08:28 PM

I've had my 91 n/a as a daily driver for the past 5 years...this includes driving it thru the snow plenty of times.



Just this year (Nov-Jan) I've commuted home in either a dusting-2inches of snow about 6 times. Everyone else has the right idea...if you're inexperienced in rwd, you may have problems. But if you are confident, the FC is a blast to drive in slippery roads. The car gives you great feedback and is easy to correct when put in trouble https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



Now I actually look for the windy road when its snowing...makes the drive so much more fun...dorifto desu! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

ColinRX7 01-27-2004 08:37 PM

I love my GXL.. So she's taking all the corners in the garage quite nicely during the winter months.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

teknics 01-27-2004 10:41 PM

just drove through the blizzard of the week here in nj, in my fc, didnt slip or slide unless i wanted too, and when i wanted to i could snap it right back into a straight line, i even watched an m3 crash.



kevin.

SpecialT 01-28-2004 10:20 AM

I saw a guy yesterday, cruising through 10" of snow in Toronto. . . .

seemed to be doing ok, Except that it was a red FD?!?!?!

I couldn't watch to long, it made me sad.

BrandonDrecksage 01-28-2004 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by RE_GTR' date='Dec 25 2003, 10:04 PM
I planned to get my first car, a 2nd gen RX-7 n/a. It's going to be a daily driven car. But everytime I think about winter, I can sorta picture the rx-7 spinning around.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif . I'm an amature at driving, or lets just say no one taught me how to drive yet... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif . Since you guys are expert 7's drivers, hows the handling on snow? If its quite difficult for a beginner, then I might go towards a different car... which I dont want to... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

its all about just takin it slow, my first winter driving, i had a auto camaro, then last year i was in a 5-speed ford ranger, this year i have my 91 n/a fc, its horrible in the snow, but u'll be fine if you take your time


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