Sup all, I mest have sompletely fucked up my rebuild, cuz I have water in the oil now. **** I am super pissed off right now. Got to talk to Rob and spend money on having my motor rebuilt. Damnit I never shoudl have rebuilt my engine.

Sucks, so it burning coolant?

take it apart and do it again...it should be obvious what is wrong

Never got it to start, I noticed that the collant buzzer has been going off the whole time. But that is what I am going to do.

yeah don't just give up, do that **** yourself. i know what u are sayin tho. just realize that if you give up now all your work was wasted.

Damn was this your first rebuild? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/unsure.png Try it again before you send for a rebuild.

Yeah, I am going to take the motor out tonight and take it apart tomorrow. At least this time things won't take me as long.

you will get the motor out and fix it in no time. once you do it once, doing it again will be easy

How do you know there is coolant in the oil if it didn't run?

Yeah, I took the dipstick out and it was halfway up the stick and foamy white stuff.

don't go pulling it out yet.



fill the coolant system up then do a coolant pressure test, if it holds pressure up to 15psi your rebuild is probaly OK in the coolant department.



What has your oil cooler been doing while your engine was out of the car? just sitting there open to the elements perhaps? Good source for moisture if so.

My oil cooler has been sitting in my garage. And I am pretty sure the rebuild is messed up cuz, when I fill up the system, it isn't full a couple of seconds later. When the key is on the coolant buzzer immidiatly start wailing at me. And at one point all the coolant that I put in just went into the overflow.

I bought a core engine for $20 once. It had good compression so I took a chance and installed it in my car. I kept adding coolant and after 2 plus gallons I figured something was wrong. I checked the oil dipstick and sure enough it was 1/2 way up the stick. I decided to start the car anyway just for the hell of it. Damn thing started right up and idled great. I shut it off immediately and decided this will be the engine I rebuild for my car. The engine is currently at my builders shop. Every engine he rebuilds goes on the test stand. He doesn't usually let an engine leave his shop without running it for 3 hours.



Whats the point of my story? Well, no real point just rambling on about stuff.

I picked this motor up when my old one lost compression. Got it for $100, and it was carbon locked. Pulled it apart and other than being carbon locked the engine was in great shape.

how does the water get into the oil? you realize how hard that is?



mike

I figured that I probably jsut installed a coolant oring or what ever wrong?

What has to be wrong for water to getinto the oil?

you either need to pinch an outer coolant o ring on the bottom so it can leak in to the oil, or you have to blow the outer coolant seal AND the dowel pin o rings and some how get them to mix. or it could be a freeze plug. you need to pressure test the motor



mike

When I did my first rebuild it seamed there was water in the oil. Turns out that I fogot that I had flushed my oil coolers with a garden hose.

yep, like I said before, coolant system pressure test.

there's no such things as freeze plugs mike, of all people i thought you'd know that.



there are however core plugs.



kevin.

Freeze plug is actually a widely accepted name for freeze plugs, considering 'core plugs' have multiple purposes for their existance, relief of the media after casting, and relief in the event of freezing coolant to prevent a cracked (expensive) block. Considering their only function after the block is created is to plug the holes in the block and provide a safety measure in the event of a freeze I prefer to call them freeze plugs, as it is an intuitive name and the rest of the automotive world knows what I'm talking about when I say it.



http://store.summitracing.com/section.asp?d=1&s=82



Have you tried searching summitracing.com for 'engine core plugs' and found what you want? Considering none of us cast engine blocks, and most of us have at least once purchased parts for our cars from summit and would likely do it again, it seems freeze plugs is the proper term for us to use?

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif Peng

lol, i was gonna say go to an auto parts store with a camera and ask for core plugs so you can record the blank look



mike

Herez an update. I got the testor $160 after getting said apater. Pump it a few times and the radiator vent just let the pressure out imidiatly (IE pressure wouldn't build). Then I pluged that and pump it up to about 5 psi, and low and behold water started dripping out of the passenger side of the motor.

So right now I am about to pull the motor. And it is almost completly stripped. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/wacko.png

sweet, knowing what is wrong is so nice https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



now you have another tool to take with whenever looking at potential FC's to buy.

asking for a specific core plug is easy, we bought one for an inline-4 ford engine last week at ramapo auto parts. shall i find the box or something?



as for freeze plug, there's no plug that fits the common idea behind a "freeze plug" which most say is use to save the engine in extreme temperatures by popping out of the block.



ask people that make the core plugs what they're called, hell i dont even think it says freeze plugs in an engine manual.



kevin.

asking for a specific core plug is easy, we bought one for an inline-4 ford engine last week at ramapo auto parts. shall i find the box or something?



as for freeze plug, there's no plug that fits the common idea behind a "freeze plug" which most say is use to save the engine in extreme temperatures by popping out of the block.



ask people that make the core plugs what they're called, hell i dont even think it says freeze plugs in an engine manual.



kevin. [/quote]

Who ******* cares???



It's all semantics. Most true mechanics will call them freeze plugs. Call them whatever you would like.

could you please stop whoring in my thread please https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/happy.png

But on the good note I got the motor completely stripped, and I will be disasembling it tomorrow.

How is it going?

Its going I haven't time to take it apart yet, but I have orders all my gaskets and what not, plus I took the oportunity to purchase

FD corner seal springs. Hopefully I will get a lot more work done on Fri-Sun nights since I get off work way earlier.

I am concearned at how dirty the aux. ports were already though.

I'm about 90% sure you probably had one of the outer o-rings fall out of the groove as you were laying the plates down and pinched the O-ring. If you haven't started the engine you may be able to just get one o-ring and reuse everything. If the engine was started then the heat will cause the o-rings to expand and they are not supposed to be reused and they won't fit in the grooves anymore.



Question, when you were dropping the torsen bolts in the rear plate, did you have one that just didn't want to go in all the way? This happens some times with one or two even if nothings wrong, but usually if a o-ring drops out it will cover one of the torsen bolt holes and you'll know because the bolt will hit it and not want to go in all the way, but a gental tap will make it go in once is snaps the o-ring..

I didn't have the problems with the tension bolts I think. But I just spent the $150 and got another full gasket/o-ring set, I have the money to do it correctly so I think that I should.

I pinched an inner on the last rebuild I did, and it was a 10.00 teflon encapsulated one. :(