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Cheers! 02-09-2004 11:28 PM

Just wondering who here is still running a hybrid turbo. Vosko do u know what happened to the one on your old TII? did it blow up?



I know hyrbids are not the answer to High HP, but that is not my problem/question.



I've been doing some searches from way back in the day of rx7club.com when it had good useful information.



Reference:

http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.ph...&threadid=53910



I remember reading this 2 years ago and thinking, PERFECT this is exactlywhat i want.



I do not wish for high HP, I enjoy autox and like how the car behaves, just want a bit more grunt then what i can do wtih a stock turbo at hi PSI. Around 275 RWHP is ideal for me.



I remember many many moons ago, this was the ideal setup for FCs when they were new on the market place and no one knew about using a Huge T4 single to make power.



J9... Mike... is Paul at K2RD doing hybrids?



-Jason

Cheers! 02-09-2004 11:37 PM

Also what can you guys tell me about replacing the carbon seal to a dynamic seal on the HT-18. Possible? Worth it?

1Revvin7 02-10-2004 12:22 AM

I'm pretty sure Vos blew his up. How many people actually have hyrbids/stock turbos that last at high psi???

rmaiersg 02-10-2004 01:27 AM

How long does a hybrid last at ...say 15 psi?

baller520 02-10-2004 03:14 AM

Off the top of my head I can only list rpeck over on the other forum. He has a 60-1 compressor wheel in a to4b housing. I'll have a bnr stage II soon....h3 wheel in a to4b housing, exhuast wheel clipped 10 degrees. I'm shooting for 275rwhp on the stock ecu, and 300+ when I eventually switch over to stand alone. Hopefully henrik will have his stage 1.5 ecu out soon and I can try it out.



I know there are a hell of a lot of people running hybrids right now, but I can't think of any names off the top of my head, hopefully we can get some to post in here.



Vosko blew up his engine, not the turbo. Heh, of course it was probably the turbo's fault the engine pinged since it was flowing a lot more air than the stocker https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif



I didn't realize k2rd was still around. I remember there site was down for almost a month when I was looking to get the kyb agx's. Places off the top of my head I know do hybrids:



majestic turbochargers (waco, tx)

bnr (birmingham, al)

turbonetics (san bernadino, ca)



You could probably just reach 275 with a v-trim, which can be machined into the stock housing.

UniqueTII 02-10-2004 03:50 AM

It has been my experience that Majestic's hybrids are good, make good power, and last about a month before they need a rebuild.

mazdadrifter 02-10-2004 06:45 AM

i'm running a hybrid and my car is strong as hell, but I did all kinds of other **** to it too.

7mech 02-10-2004 07:01 AM

I'm running the BNR stage III and made 307rwhp at 1 bar and an 11.5:1 a/f ratio. It's not bad and spools very quick. I'm not sure how long it will last though. I only bought it because of a limited budget during engine rebuild. I'm sure if the a/f ratio was around the range of 12:1 or 12.5:1 I would have made more power.

j9fd3s 02-10-2004 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Feb 9 2004, 09:28 PM
Just wondering who here is still running a hybrid turbo. Vosko do u know what happened to the one on your old TII? did it blow up?



I know hyrbids are not the answer to High HP, but that is not my problem/question.



I've been doing some searches from way back in the day of rx7club.com when it had good useful information.



Reference:

http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthread.ph...&threadid=53910



I remember reading this 2 years ago and thinking, PERFECT this is exactlywhat i want.



I do not wish for high HP, I enjoy autox and like how the car behaves, just want a bit more grunt then what i can do wtih a stock turbo at hi PSI. Around 275 RWHP is ideal for me.



I remember many many moons ago, this was the ideal setup for FCs when they were new on the market place and no one knew about using a Huge T4 single to make power.



J9... Mike... is Paul at K2RD doing hybrids?



-Jason

yes he is. we put an h trim compressor (or hell if you swap to a t4 compressor housing you can do anything you want), and bore out the exhaust for an o trim wheel.



that turbo lasted like 5 laps, but the motor killed it



my hybrid (stock s5 exhaust, v trim compressor) has about 15k on it, dyned 265rwhp@9psi on cymfc3s's car and is still fine, its getting an o trim exhaust and going onto the fc2010

cymfc3s 02-10-2004 11:40 AM

yah, the hybrids are great. For one, because they fit in the stock location and use all the stock oil and coolant lines, its a cakewalk to install. Fabing your own lines can sometimes be a hassle unless you know what your doing. Plus, you can use the stock downpipe. The hybrid worked really well on my car with low boost, made great power all around.

Cheers! 02-10-2004 12:17 PM

Mike/Seth, Who did the turbo cusotmization? prices?

1Revvin7 02-10-2004 03:39 PM

Anyone have a dyno graph of a hyrbid with a larger turbine in it?

UniqueTII 02-10-2004 03:46 PM

All I have is a lot of experience beating TII's with stock turbos running 10# of boost while I was only running 7. Does that help? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

mazdadrifter 02-10-2004 04:30 PM

yeah, it really seems to transform the car, it's the compressor mazda should have used for stock.

Dramon_Killer 02-10-2004 05:51 PM

Why do they tend to die?

teknics 02-10-2004 08:38 PM

im eunning a t04e hybrid.



ive spiked to 17psi, driven hard up to 15psi, and abused the **** out of my engine and turbo.



give it a proper cool down time everytime tho and constantly inspect it.



its still doing great.



kevin.

UniqueTII 02-10-2004 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by Dramon_Killer' date='Feb 10 2004, 05:51 PM
Why do they tend to die?

The oil seals went on mine, which is what I hear about a lot of Majestic hybrids.

Dramon_Killer 02-10-2004 10:07 PM

Oh, how much do they usually cost on average?

Cheers! 02-10-2004 11:35 PM

according to the link http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...threadid=53910



they are around 600 or so.

UniqueTII 02-11-2004 04:13 AM

Mine was $875, but I got a "special deal" from a rotary specialist.

j9fd3s 02-11-2004 10:25 AM

mine was $700, but i bought it from cymfc3s

Jims5543 02-11-2004 12:22 PM

I sold Mazdadrifter my Hybrid T-04E. I ran it for a year w/o any problems. He just got his car going so lets see how it does w/ him.



I would run more than 12 PSI on it though it will last a long time that way. Better situation would be to boost 7 PSI for daily driving and 12 for Racing etc..



I bought the Series 5 Turbo on Team for $300 complete w/ manifold etc.. I sent it to Majestic and had it rebuilt and converted to a the T-04E. Put 242RWHP @ 9 PSI w/ stock ECU 720 secondaries and a S-AFC.



My dad had his FD twins rebuilt by them for $1000 and they blew out an oil seal on the rear turbo. :(



I guess sometimes you get a good rebuilt and sometimes you dont.

Cheers! 02-11-2004 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by Jims5543' date='Feb 11 2004, 01:22 PM
My dad had his FD twins rebuilt by them for $1000 and they blew out an oil seal on the rear turbo. :(



I guess sometimes you get a good rebuilt and sometimes you dont.

I don't like the sound of that one.

I have a spare S5 TII turbo i got for 50 CDN. That is like 35 USD?



No shaft play, the problem with it is smokes from the turbo. My thinking and the seller's is that there is something wrong with the bearing and coolant is leaking onto the hot turbo and making it smoke right on the turbo.

Dramon_Killer 02-11-2004 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Feb 10 2004, 09:35 PM
according to the link http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...threadid=53910



they are around 600 or so.

Thread didn't work for some reason.



Anyways that's surprisingly a lot more than what i had expected. I remember back when i had my MKIII to upgrade that turbo most people didnt go over 300 bucks.

Cheers! 02-11-2004 06:45 PM

http://www.rx7club.com/forum/showthr...threadid=53910

Dramon_Killer 02-11-2004 07:08 PM

Still won't work. Is it working for anyone else?

j9fd3s 02-11-2004 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Dramon_Killer' date='Feb 11 2004, 05:08 PM
Still won't work. Is it working for anyone else?

nope

Cheers! 02-11-2004 07:15 PM

clikc the link i have on the 1st post... worked for me

j200pruf 03-11-2004 01:26 PM

If a hybrid turbo is running a T04 housing and wheel, why can't it last at higher boost levels like 15-20? Is it because it still has to deal with the smallish stock hotside (at least when comparing it to a full t04B turbo)?

j9fd3s 03-11-2004 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by j200pruf' date='Mar 11 2004, 11:26 AM
If a hybrid turbo is running a T04 housing and wheel, why can't it last at higher boost levels like 15-20? Is it because it still has to deal with the smallish stock hotside (at least when comparing it to a full t04B turbo)?

the center section is still stock (maybe) and so is the hot side

j200pruf 03-11-2004 01:45 PM

Ok, it is just that the stock parts can't take the boost, thanks a lot Mike.

j9fd3s 03-11-2004 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by j200pruf' date='Mar 11 2004, 11:45 AM
Ok, it is just that the stock parts can't take the boost, thanks a lot Mike.

the stock parts are good for x number of rpms, if you go over that; seems to be like 12psi ish; then the seals die qucikly. when you put the larger compressor on, it moves more air per rpm, so x rpm will give you more boost, but it will still die if you spin it too fast

rmaiersg 03-11-2004 04:33 PM

I'm looking to get a hybrid here soon. What do you guys recommend? So far, Majestic sonds a little sketchy.


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