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rmaiersg 09-30-2003 08:23 AM

Right now have all emmissions removed. I have to pass emmisions next summer if I want to drive again. I could put on the air pump and use one or two very large cats or would it pass better with a streetport, standalone, and a new turbo? I know the streetport is worse for emmissions but I could tune it a little lean and stuff just to make it passs emmisions then tune it back. What do you guys think?

j9fd3s 09-30-2003 12:46 PM

you need a cat, the airpump, and a working acv and it should be ok. the port doesnt help. but if you can play with mixture you should be able to get it past



mike

Erik 09-30-2003 12:53 PM

make friends with an private inspection shop/station...if thats possible https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Jims5543 09-30-2003 01:01 PM

Thats how we did it in New York. I knew they inspection guy and he would use another car for the emmisions test.



You must have a friend that knows a guy that has a friend that has a cousin that can do it for you. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

rmaiersg 09-30-2003 02:15 PM

Is the ACV what controls the amount of air going into the exhaust or is it for the EGR?

j9fd3s 09-30-2003 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by rmaiersg' date='Sep 30 2003, 11:15 AM
Is the ACV what controls the amount of air going into the exhaust or is it for the EGR?

acv

adamlewis 09-30-2003 03:22 PM

You can pass the sniffer by running alcohol. You dont need an air pump or a cat at all. Just run a liberal amount of alcohol through it and youll pass with flying colors.



If you have a visual inspection however, youll need that airpump.

rmaiersg 09-30-2003 04:09 PM

where do you run the alchohol? Like it's own injection setup or can i mix it with fuel or pure alcohol?

pengaru 09-30-2003 04:19 PM

use it for fuel.

adamlewis 09-30-2003 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by rmaiersg' date='Sep 30 2003, 04:09 PM
where do you run the alchohol? Like it's own injection setup or can i mix it with fuel or pure alcohol?

Yep..Like Peng said, just us it for your fuel.

However be sure to get it al out of there when youre done because it will eat through fuel line if it sits in there for too long.

Red Suns 09-30-2003 06:51 PM

what kind of alcohol? rubbing alcohol? methanol?

Apex13B 09-30-2003 07:00 PM

Methanol....you'll need larger injectors. It takes twice the amount of methanol VS gas to combust in the chamber correctly..and the tuning it the reverse of tuning with gas.



Just put the emissions stuff back on and then take it off the next day....that is what i do

adamlewis 09-30-2003 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:00 PM
Methanol....you'll need larger injectors. It takes twice the amount of methanol VS gas to combust in the chamber correctly..and the tuning it the reverse of tuning with gas.



Just put the emissions stuff back on and then take it off the next day....that is what i do

Bigger injectors WTF?



Have you ever tried this?

adamlewis 09-30-2003 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by Red Suns' date='Sep 30 2003, 06:51 PM
what kind of alcohol? rubbing alcohol? methanol?

Just regular old denatured alcohol. Nothing fancy. Just dont use rubbing alcohol ( Isopropyl )

Apex13B 09-30-2003 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:05 PM
[quote name='Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:00 PM'] Methanol....you'll need larger injectors. It takes twice the amount of methanol VS gas to combust in the chamber correctly..and the tuning it the reverse of tuning with gas.



Just put the emissions stuff back on and then take it off the next day....that is what i do

Bigger injectors WTF?



Have you ever tried this? [/quote]

yeah...those Ford DFX, DFS, XB,XD... motors run on methanol... (vintage ChampCar)



Methanol is significantly less dense than gas....55 gal drum of M1 weighs about 300 lbs



55 gal of C16 weighs 405 lbs. I know this because i move them around the shop https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



I have had the experience of watching Dave Dalgren tune Jose Perez's 13B on the motor dyno at MWE. The fuel map was backwards from a gas map. (875hp@11,000)

Apex13B 09-30-2003 07:25 PM

oh and by the way adam, i post stuff like that when i know that i'm right. So, arguing is futile



gasahol will work miers

adamlewis 09-30-2003 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:23 PM
[quote name='adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:05 PM'] [quote name='Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:00 PM'] Methanol....you'll need larger injectors. It takes twice the amount of methanol VS gas to combust in the chamber correctly..and the tuning it the reverse of tuning with gas.



Just put the emissions stuff back on and then take it off the next day....that is what i do

Bigger injectors WTF?



Have you ever tried this? [/quote]

yeah...those Ford DFX, DFS, XB,XD... motors run on methanol... (vintage ChampCar)



Methanol is significantly less dense than gas....55 gal drum of M1 weighs about 300 lbs



55 gal of C16 weighs 405 lbs. I know this because i move them around the shop https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



I have had the experience of watching Dave Dalgren tune Jose Perez's 13B on the motor dyno at MWE. The fuel map was backwards from a gas map. (875hp@11,000) [/quote]

Thats all good and well, but have you ever ran alcohol through your car to pass emissions? Didnt think so...



You dont need to change your injectors. Just run your gas low, pour in a gallon or so of alcohol. If it idles rough, add some gas until it doesnt. Then go get it smogged, and drive the rest of that crap out of there.

Apex13B 09-30-2003 07:31 PM

put the ****** emission stuff back on you lazy **** LOL



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

adamlewis 09-30-2003 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:31 PM
put the ****** emission stuff back on you lazy **** LOL



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Or just dump some alcohol in there...Whichever you want to do.



I personally took the registerinanothercountythatdoesnthaveemissions route.

Joe Flo 09-30-2003 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:44 PM
[quote name='Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:31 PM'] put the ****** emission stuff back on you lazy **** LOL



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Or just dump some alcohol in there...Whichever you want to do.



I personally took the registerinanothercountythatdoesnthaveemissions route. [/quote]

Yeah!! That used to work. Until they started checking your ID for Residence verifications!

adamlewis 09-30-2003 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:46 PM
[quote name='adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:44 PM'] [quote name='Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:31 PM'] put the ****** emission stuff back on you lazy **** LOL



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Or just dump some alcohol in there...Whichever you want to do.



I personally took the registerinanothercountythatdoesnthaveemissions route. [/quote]

Yeah!! That used to work. Until they started checking your ID for Residence verifications! [/quote]

I just told them I live with my girlfriend. Guess they do it differently in your parts!!

Joe Flo 09-30-2003 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:48 PM
[quote name='Joe Flo' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:46 PM'] [quote name='adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:44 PM'] [quote name='Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:31 PM'] put the ****** emission stuff back on you lazy **** LOL



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Or just dump some alcohol in there...Whichever you want to do.



I personally took the registerinanothercountythatdoesnthaveemissions route. [/quote]

Yeah!! That used to work. Until they started checking your ID for Residence verifications! [/quote]

I just told them I live with my girlfriend. Guess they do it differently in your parts!! [/quote]

Yup...we do alot of things differently in my part then in Kentucky https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

adamlewis 09-30-2003 11:13 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Flo' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:48 PM
[quote name='adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:48 PM'] [quote name='Joe Flo' date='Sep 30 2003, 10:46 PM'] [quote name='adamlewis' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:44 PM'] [quote name='Apex13B' date='Sep 30 2003, 07:31 PM'] put the ****** emission stuff back on you lazy **** LOL



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Or just dump some alcohol in there...Whichever you want to do.



I personally took the registerinanothercountythatdoesnthaveemissions route. [/quote]

Yeah!! That used to work. Until they started checking your ID for Residence verifications! [/quote]

I just told them I live with my girlfriend. Guess they do it differently in your parts!! [/quote]

Yup...we do alot of things differently in my part then in Kentucky https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif [/quote]

I honestly would have thought it would be more lax where you are, but I guess not.


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