I've got everything ready to go, and I'm trying to reinstall my transmission. I've got a jack holding up the rear end of it, and the front end is propped in place, I'm assuming held up by the input shaft. However, I've got about 1.5" to go, and it won't go in. I spun the flywheel a bit in case the teeth weren't lining up or something, but that didn't seem to help. All the bolt holes line up, and nothing is in the way that I can see.
The clutch alignment tool was a little stiff going in and out, thinking it was just because of the tight fit of the shaft in the pilot bearing, with bearing grease in there. |
Baldy, the angle has to be right, the splines have to line up and the clutch disc must be centeres relative to the pilot bearing ID. And if you hold your tongue just right, it slides right in.
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Tilt the engine back, and remove the clutch slave. It hits the firewall.
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this is almost my least favorite part of working on cars. banzai is right once the angle is right it will pop right in.
some cars its a huge pain in the butt! our race car was easy, like a sausage in a hallway |
I tilted the engine back (easy to do with old worn-out engine mounts). I'll try again tonight.
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This is exactly why I mount the tranny and motor together when putting them back in... it took me over an hour the first time i did a motor swap to get the engine to line up w/ the tranny that was already installed.. angles are everything on these cars.
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It takes patience. I had my 12a on an engine stand once and could not line up the trans. No matter what I tried it would not go. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif The next day, first try.
Stabbing the trans in a second gen with the motor installed is a challenge. tilting the motor back and haveing someone rotate the engine helps. good luck. |
Today I'm going to have someone wiggle the engine and such from above, while I try stabbling it below. Hopefully it'll go in.
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yeah i second the engine and trany at once... you could spend hours and still not get it in... just undo the 4 bolts that hold the trany pull it out and then line them up and bolt it together, one thing to do it helps, use your alignment tool but bearly sinch the bolts so the clutch plate can still move just a wee bit... (this is what i did, i had no tool) then you should hav a little access pannel on the side, it looks like a vent you can tighten the bolts threw there, this is what i did sounds like it will take forever but only took 10 minuts to mate them and tighten every bolt..
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Well we got it together after a couple hours of just messing with it. We had a jack under the tranny, and would just adjust the height of the jack and wiggle the engine, it eventually went it, nothing special about it. I got everything together, then realized I couldn't put the fluid in the tranny. So today I need to go buy some sort of hand pump, or a funnel attached to a long wide hose.
But the hard part is done. Hopefully everything runs fine when I go to start it up. |
just fill the trany threw the shifter..
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Originally Posted by spiney360' post='801497' date='Feb 13 2006, 03:23 PM
just fill the trany threw the shifter.. Incorrect Info. The shifter housing is a seperate housing. The shifter rod exits the housing thru a bushing and then into the transmission case. YOU CANNOT FILL THE TRANNY THRU THE SHIFTER HOUSING! |
Yup, can't fill it through the shifter, Just use a funnel and a hose that fits in the filler hole, it can be a one man job, just run the hose through the drivers side of the engin bay and hang the funnel off the hood using a coat hanger. Works good if you warm the fluid up a litte too.
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Yeah, below 30 F, so the fluid did not want to move. I used a hand pump with the rubber bulb, but once compressed it did not want to expand again with the cold and the oil and such. I eventually found a Mug Root Beer bottle, drilled a hole in the top for the long hose, and a hole in the side for the air fitting. I set the compressor at about 18 psi, and the oil flowed in. I didn't think of this idea, but I did have to figure out how to use several air fittings to make it work right.
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I would put the bottles in really warm buckets of water.
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or get the pump tool made for the job, its like $5-$10 and will save you form being macgvyer next time, its a handy tool. some handy bottles come with it already attached.
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Originally Posted by teknics' post='802003' date='Feb 15 2006, 04:19 PM
or get the pump tool made for the job, its like $5-$10 and will save you form being macgvyer next time, its a handy tool. some handy bottles come with it already attached. kevin. |
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Ahh, that looks nice. I didn't see anything like that at Pep Boys or Advance Auto Parts.
I was also thinking of getting a large diameter pvc pipe and drilling/tapping a hole for an air fitting, and sealing a tube with a barb fitting all in the top, so I could use the air compressor to push fluid in. |
Originally Posted by Baldy' post='801637' date='Feb 14 2006, 12:27 AM
I eventually found a Mug Root Beer bottle, how about a pepsi bottle? or a sprite bottle? think they would give the same results? |
Rob, the MUG bottles have a slippier coefficient of slipericity which provides superior fluid transfer cabapility. 9 out of 10 aborigini's agree!
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yup trans jobs sucks! i bought one of those pumps for doing gear oil change on my diff in my FD..
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Originally Posted by banzaitoyota' post='802066' date='Feb 15 2006, 09:17 PM
Rob, the MUG bottles have a slippier coefficient of slipericity which provides superior fluid transfer cabapility. 9 out of 10 aborigini's agree! I think the root beer bottles are made to handle more pressure, rootbear is a very fizzy soda. I bet a seltzer bottle would have done the job faster |
Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='802063' date='Feb 15 2006, 09:09 PM
how about a pepsi bottle? or a sprite bottle? think they would give the same results? Plus Pepsi is just nasty. |
god I hate clutch jobs, took me 12 hours do do mine with bigturbo74 helping me the whole time, right before we were about to say **** it and call it a night, it slid right the **** in.
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Originally Posted by drunkin_idiot' post='802292' date='Feb 16 2006, 08:59 PM
god I hate clutch jobs, took me 12 hours do do mine with bigturbo74 helping me the whole time, right before we were about to say **** it and call it a night, it slid right the **** in. did you drink root beer before or after? |
They must have had the cheap brown soda version from Walmart.
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a few years ago i was helping do a clutch job, we had the same problem, could only get within an inch, re-centered the clutch a few times
turned out the first time we were lining up the tranny, it caught the bottom of a heatshild near the shifter housing, and was actualy just getting caught there so many hours wasted.. |
I think when the dude said something about fill thru the shifter was refering to ... the way I fill mine. I shoot a tube w/funnel attached from inside the car thru the shifter hole/access down to the fill hole .... more direct than from engine bay ... if cut to the proper length the funnel is suported by side of tranny n tunnel ... easier for me than pumpin n tryin not to tip over qt bottle n pull tube out ... just my 2 cents as long as it gets in there ...
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your a ****** for using a root beer bottle, use a welch's grape soda bottle. in the future, stick the driveshaft in the back if the tranny and spin the drive shaft until the input shaft slips in. you are weak, i just bench the mother fucker up in there spin the driveshaft and "click" it slips in, its worked 5 times (many clutch changes) https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
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Originally Posted by Apex13B' post='806282' date='Mar 6 2006, 11:16 PM
your a ****** for using a root beer bottle, use a welch's grape soda bottle. in the future, stick the driveshaft in the back if the tranny and spin the drive shaft until the input shaft slips in. you are weak, i just bench the mother fucker up in there spin the driveshaft and "click" it slips in, its worked 5 times (many clutch changes) https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png |
Originally Posted by Baldy' post='831745' date='Aug 7 2006, 03:06 PM
Just wanted to add here, I installed the tranny again last night (swapped trannies, my 1st gear broke), and the driveshaft thing worked wonderfully. |
Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='831879' date='Aug 8 2006, 10:34 AM
Dont forget to add gear oil in the tranny, not just the shifter housing. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png been there, done that. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif |
Of course. I did the air method. I drilled a hole in the oil bottle cap, inserted a tube to the bottom. Then poked a hole near the top of the bottle, and applied pressurized air. It took quite a while due to air leaking, but it got the job done with very little effort on my part.
Tip: transfer oil to a soda bottle, it holds a lot more pressure. The oil bottle looked like it was about to bust with something like 12 psi. I've been meaning to build something like this out of PVC or steel pipes, with a fitting for a flexible tube, a quick-connect air fitting for the compressor, and a screw-on top or bottom for filling with oil. It would make fluid changes a snap. |
fill it before it goes back in the damn car? strawberry shortcake says "**** YEAH!"
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Originally Posted by 89 Rag' post='832327' date='Aug 10 2006, 08:18 PM
fill it before it goes back in the damn car? strawberry shortcake says "**** YEAH!" |
Originally Posted by 89 Rag' post='832327' date='Aug 10 2006, 08:18 PM
fill it before it goes back in the damn car? strawberry shortcake says "**** YEAH!"
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Originally Posted by RONIN FC' post='832411' date='Aug 11 2006, 12:25 PM
Hmm, i guess you can put the drive shaft in the trans, then put it in together. Kind of a balancing act... |
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