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WNT2CREALPAIN 08-13-2006 12:02 PM

Rust & Rott Has Owned My Turbo II.



Im Having Trouble Finding Rocker Panels, Floor Pans, Wheel Arch Panels Etc...



Anyone Know Of Some Good Part Sources? I Don't Wanna Have To Start Cliping Cars. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

silver86 08-13-2006 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by WNT2CREALPAIN' post='832666' date='Aug 13 2006, 12:02 PM

Rust & Rott Has Owned My Turbo II.



Im Having Trouble Finding Rocker Panels, Floor Pans, Wheel Arch Panels Etc...



Anyone Know Of Some Good Part Sources? I Don't Wanna Have To Start Cliping Cars. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png





what about junk yards?

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-13-2006 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by silver86' post='832671' date='Aug 13 2006, 09:42 AM

what about junk yards?



I said I don't want to go out cliping cars just yet.



That was my final option originaly. Thanks anyways.

mazdarx713b 08-13-2006 01:48 PM

victoria british might have some rare parts, but its pretty expensive

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-13-2006 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by mazdarx713b' post='832679' date='Aug 13 2006, 10:48 AM

victoria british might have some rare parts, but its pretty expensive



Contacted Them And Black Dragon Automotive Yesterday.



Waiting on replies still. And price don't matter as long as I get the parts I need.



This car is a ******* money pit. Ive contacted ernest from rx7world.com.



He has alot of interior parts for me but no panels an such.



Told me to swap my TII into a different body. I said hell no...



I want to save a seven!

teknics 08-13-2006 02:36 PM

mazdatrix? contact them by phone as they have tons more stuff then is on their website, or find the link for their full price sheet and scroll through there, they list everything they have there but its a simple like notepad document of 10's of thousands of parts.



kevin.

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-13-2006 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' post='832682' date='Aug 13 2006, 11:36 AM

mazdatrix? contact them by phone as they have tons more stuff then is on their website, or find the link for their full price sheet and scroll through there, they list everything they have there but its a simple like notepad document of 10's of thousands of parts.



kevin.



I just sent them a email but will probly end up calling anyways.



Thanks kevin!

j9fd3s 08-13-2006 03:08 PM

all that stuff has to come from mazda, theres no point in looking anywhere else.



the floor pan isnt available, and when it was you'd be looking at $1500 peice of steel.



rockers are available, and not too badly priced



i got the last left rear quarter panel, i dont know about the inner quarter panels



the cost to properly restore a good running rust free t2 is upwards of 20k, starting with a rusty car only puts you further behind.

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-13-2006 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='832686' date='Aug 13 2006, 12:08 PM

all that stuff has to come from mazda, theres no point in looking anywhere else.



the floor pan isnt available, and when it was you'd be looking at $1500 peice of steel.



rockers are available, and not too badly priced



i got the last left rear quarter panel, i dont know about the inner quarter panels



the cost to properly restore a good running rust free t2 is upwards of 20k, starting with a rusty car only puts you further behind.



I would be willing to pay that if it were available.



Cost of 20k huh.....



With doing the work yourself with some advice, equitment & assistance from skilled bodymen?

cymfc3s 08-13-2006 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by WNT2CREALPAIN' post='832689' date='Aug 13 2006, 12:23 PM

I would be willing to pay that if it were available.



Cost of 20k huh.....



With doing the work yourself with some advice, equitment & assistance from skilled bodymen?





Yes. I was one of Menlo Mazda's top parts customers for something like 2 quarters. I can't remember what the total ended up being, but it was crazy. And that was replacing ZERO body panels, just all the stuff around it.

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-13-2006 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by cymfc3s' post='832705' date='Aug 13 2006, 02:33 PM

Yes. I was one of Menlo Mazda's top parts customers for something like 2 quarters. I can't remember what the total ended up being, but it was crazy. And that was replacing ZERO body panels, just all the stuff around it.



Well once I get my restoration outline done i'll know exactly what parts I REALLY NEED to get. Then i'll know how much im looking at and might decide not to fully restore it. Maybe just fix the body up and say forget the rest. I haven't even really SERIOUSLY began tearing the car down yet im just thinking ahead so I don't tare it down then come to find out the panels are unavailable. All I did is take out most interior, front bumper, side skirts , hood & tail lights so far. My main concern is the back of the car & the underbody. Then I was going to get my motor rebuilt but ive decided to pull it and rebuild it myself in the process of waiting for parts etc. I called mazdatrix and they said they don't carry any "hardcore" body parts. Here's a pic of the back... it was a nice suprise when I was taking off the tail light assembly. I knew there was rust bubbling through the paint on the middle tail light but didn't know the inside was this bad.

banzaitoyota 08-13-2006 08:08 PM

I have several rust free shells I am cutting up. Hit me up with your needs. I also have 3 NOS Mazda Driver Side Door Shells, still in E-Coat

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-13-2006 10:39 PM

S.L.T! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



PM'd You My Needs.

Rob x-7 08-14-2006 08:55 AM

you would be MUCH better off to look for another car, there are plenty of low mileage cars out there with no rust on them.



The parts you end up welding in will probably rust at the welds later on down the road.

j9fd3s 08-14-2006 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='832745' date='Aug 14 2006, 06:55 AM

you would be MUCH better off to look for another car, there are plenty of low mileage cars out there with no rust on them.



The parts you end up welding in will probably rust at the welds later on down the road.



yeah we had a gsl-se come in, and it had had the rear taillight panel replaced (big sheet metal peice thats basically the back of the car), and it was rusting at the seams

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-14-2006 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='832745' date='Aug 14 2006, 05:55 AM

you would be MUCH better off to look for another car, there are plenty of low mileage cars out there with no rust on them.



The parts you end up welding in will probably rust at the welds later on down the road.



Yeah I know. Ive been told that by every place I contacted for parts. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/mellow.png



Ive been up all night contacting people and mazda about parts. Just got up from an hours nap.



Still waitng for banzaitoyotas reply to the PM. I will not scrap this car!

GMON 08-14-2006 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by WNT2CREALPAIN' post='832772' date='Aug 14 2006, 09:41 AM

Yeah I know. Ive been told that by every place I contacted for parts. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...R#>/mellow.png



Ive been up all night contacting people and mazda about parts. Just got up from an hours nap.



Still waitng for banzaitoyotas reply to the PM. I will not scrap this car!



Try Weldthrough primer. Its like Zinc Oxide or something. Works very well. Ive got a dub that had a whole rear quarter welded on. Its been 5 years of MN cold,snow and Salt. No rust yet.



but yeah, dont mean to bum you out but I would just look for a new body. They are a dime a dozen.

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-14-2006 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by GMON' post='832795' date='Aug 14 2006, 02:27 PM

Try Weldthrough primer. Its like Zinc Oxide or something. Works very well. Ive got a dub that had a whole rear quarter welded on. Its been 5 years of MN cold,snow and Salt. No rust yet.



but yeah, dont mean to bum you out but I would just look for a new body. They are a dime a dozen.



Yeah that's what I was going to use that weld through primer/self etching primer. [ j9fd3s ] Did the guys use the weldthrough primer? Thanks for the advice and opinions. I don't know call me crazy guys or whatever but I have like this fetish for rx's. I hate to see when one of these cars go to the junkyard as it is.... especialy if I am the owner of it. My TII was my first and favorite car I ever owned. It's special to me. Ive had lot's of fun & good times with it, even though it was nearly stock and **** on my world for the time being lol. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Rob x-7 08-14-2006 08:57 PM

while I can appreciate your willingness to restore a car, when it comes to having to cut out panels because they are rusted then it becomes a little unreasonable considering there are plenty of rust free cars out there needing much less work. When you cut out the panels there is always a underlying reason why it rusted, and that usually becomes evident when the panel is removed, you might find more subframe rust once you start cutting- then it can get out of hand real quick.



Usually if you CANT find any better cars then people go all out, but then you also have to consider the value of what your doing- the car is not worth that much and to put all that time into a car that wont give you any return on your investment does not make much sense. Thats also saying you dont place any value on your free time.



Its also not like a older muscle car where you can get all kinds of parts in exact reproduction.



You may need to get past your sentiments and find a better shell, maybe one that just needs some bolt on parts to be 100% again.



If not then good luck with your project, hopefully you can do alot of the work yourself because to pay someone to cut and weld panels can exceed the value of the car.

cymfc3s 08-14-2006 10:55 PM

So what, you're saying my numbers matching 89 TurboII won't fetch 300k at Barrett-Jackson?!?!?

WNT2CREALPAIN 08-15-2006 12:56 AM

Like I said when the cars all torn down I will decide then. It more then likely is worse then I think right now. If someone were to fully restore a car & knows they won't get at least half of what they paid to fix it up more then likely wouldn't sell it in the first place. It's not to bright and im not stupid im just trying to work with what I have on my plate. And especialy if they did alot of the work themselves with as little help as possible like I planned. It would be priceless in my eyes and would never be for sale if restored. And your right if there's to much rott when stripped then there really is no point in doing it. It will be aborted if needed to be. Also I work in a bodyshop. Sure I don't know it all yet but im learning and the guys will be more than happy to assist me.

j9fd3s 08-15-2006 11:58 AM

floor pan, no longer available, list price is over $1000



rockers they have, 170 each



rear quarters are $800 each, they have the right, left is a maybe



inner wheel houses/inner quarter panels, $1000 each, they no have



spare tire well $320, they have one



etc etc,

Rob x-7 08-15-2006 09:08 PM

list the labor times, I think on a 1/4 its something like 16 hours

j9fd3s 08-16-2006 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' post='832972' date='Aug 15 2006, 07:08 PM

list the labor times, I think on a 1/4 its something like 16 hours



i dont have em, but yeah 16-20hrs each quarter panel......


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