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vosko 06-24-2002 09:06 AM

i wonder if i should install my radiator like BDC (brian d cain) did his. hmmmm

http://bdc.genxracing.com/bdc_fc_46.JPG

13BAce 06-24-2002 09:25 AM

You could always weld some aluminum tabs to the top and sides. Then you can use those to mount it.

vosko 06-24-2002 09:51 AM

isn't the radiator aluminum? how do you weld to aluminum. turbovr6 said there are special welding rods

Rotarydragon 06-24-2002 10:00 AM

Special rods and usually you use a MAP Gas to keep thing at the right temp. Practice before trying it and even then it's not the easiest thing...

vosko 06-24-2002 10:05 AM

there is a local radiator shop. i'll cut some angle irons then bring it there and try and have them weld them on for me. we'll see what happens

ILUVMY88CABRIO 06-24-2002 12:59 PM

You can't weld steel to aluminum.

13BAce 06-24-2002 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jun 24 2002, 11:51 AM
isn't the radiator aluminum? how do you weld to aluminum. turbovr6 said there are special welding rods

Yes. It can be done with a MIG welder with the right wire, but it's better to have it done with a TIG welder.

13BAce 06-24-2002 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jun 24 2002, 11:51 AM
isn't the radiator aluminum? how do you weld to aluminum. turbovr6 said there are special welding rods

You also need argon gas.

13BAce 06-24-2002 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jun 24 2002, 12:05 PM
there is a local radiator shop. i'll cut some angle irons then bring it there and try and have them weld them on for me. we'll see what happens

Home Depot sells flat aluminum bars that you can use.

1Revvin7 06-24-2002 02:56 PM

aluminum is hard to weld https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

13BAce 06-24-2002 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Jun 24 2002, 04:56 PM

Yeah, but experienced welders do it in a snap. B)

Rob x-7 06-24-2002 06:27 PM

I do believe you can weld steel to aluminum?

13BAce 06-24-2002 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jun 24 2002, 08:27 PM
I do believe you can weld steel to aluminum?

I've never heard of that, unless you mean JB Weld. <_<

turborotor 06-24-2002 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 24 2002, 07:33 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 24 2002, 08:27 PM']I do believe you can weld steel to aluminum?

I've never heard of that, unless you mean JB Weld. <_<[/quote]

When in doubt, i use JB weld. :bigok:

Rob x-7 06-24-2002 06:41 PM

Ill check tomoroww, I know you can weld steel to stainless, because Kooks first put steel brakets on my Borla mufflers, then when they did my system over this year, he put stainless ones on, Ill check about the aluminum-steel tomoroww though because now im getting it all mixed up in my head.

13BAce 06-24-2002 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Jun 24 2002, 08:39 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 24 2002, 07:33 PM'][quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 24 2002, 08:27 PM']I do believe you can weld steel to aluminum?

I've never heard of that, unless you mean JB Weld. <_<[/quote]

When in doubt, i use JB weld. :bigok:[/quote]

I never used JB Weld. I'm too impatient. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

vosko 06-25-2002 08:28 PM

i'm gonna see how much of a PITA this will be. if its too much work. i'm gonna sell this one to my friend for what i paid and bite the bullet and buy the koyo. i really want the car running !

13BAce 06-25-2002 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jun 25 2002, 10:28 PM
i'm gonna see how much of a PITA this will be. if its too much work. i'm gonna sell this one to my friend for what i paid and bite the bullet and buy the koyo. i really want the car running !

Well, if you can't find anyone to weld it I could get it done for $50; but you'd have to bring it here.

vosko 06-25-2002 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 25 2002, 10:44 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Jun 25 2002, 10:28 PM']i'm gonna see how much of a PITA this will be. if its too much work. i'm gonna sell this one to my friend for what i paid and bite the bullet and buy the koyo. i really want the car running !

Well, if you can't find anyone to weld it I could get it done for $50; but you'd have to bring it here.[/quote]

i am gonna quote turbovr6 " i will make it work one way or another !" we'll see what happens https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

1Revvin7 06-26-2002 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 24 2002, 07:22 PM
[quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 24 2002, 04:56 PM']aluminum is hard to weld https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Yeah, but experienced welders do it in a snap. B)[/quote]

yes, i've only practiced on cans. never had a reason to. Maybe I'll go weld some airplanes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

Rotarydragon 06-26-2002 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Jun 26 2002, 08:09 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 24 2002, 07:22 PM'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 24 2002, 04:56 PM']aluminum is hard to weld https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Yeah, but experienced welders do it in a snap. B)[/quote]

yes, i've only practiced on cans. never had a reason to. Maybe I'll go weld some airplanes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]



Yeah it's a pain in the arse to get going and not get to hot and . . . .



TIG does work better, I've heard of guys using some other sort of MAP gas but I can't remember what it was.



I seem to recall someone welding aluminum to steel with a particular type of flux but I can't be certain I'm not a welder just a hack.

13BAce 06-26-2002 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Rotarydragon' date='Jun 26 2002, 07:39 PM
[quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 26 2002, 08:09 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 24 2002, 07:22 PM'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 24 2002, 04:56 PM']aluminum is hard to weld https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Yeah, but experienced welders do it in a snap. B)[/quote]

yes, i've only practiced on cans. never had a reason to. Maybe I'll go weld some airplanes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]



Yeah it's a pain in the arse to get going and not get to hot and . . . .



TIG does work better, I've heard of guys using some other sort of MAP gas but I can't remember what it was.



I seem to recall someone welding aluminum to steel with a particular type of flux but I can't be certain I'm not a welder just a hack.[/quote]

Don't they use 100% argon as the shileding gas?

Rotarydragon 06-27-2002 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jun 27 2002, 05:36 AM
[quote name='Rotarydragon' date='Jun 26 2002, 07:39 PM'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 26 2002, 08:09 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 24 2002, 07:22 PM'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 24 2002, 04:56 PM']aluminum is hard to weld https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Yeah, but experienced welders do it in a snap. B)[/quote]

yes, i've only practiced on cans. never had a reason to. Maybe I'll go weld some airplanes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]



Yeah it's a pain in the arse to get going and not get to hot and . . . .



TIG does work better, I've heard of guys using some other sort of MAP gas but I can't remember what it was.



I seem to recall someone welding aluminum to steel with a particular type of flux but I can't be certain I'm not a welder just a hack.[/quote]

Don't they use 100% argon as the shileding gas?[/quote]



Don't quote me on it but if I remember right it's a mix of helium and argon...or was it argon and something else?



Bleh. It's been awhile and I was never the welder it was my uncle or a guy I worked with on the big rigs. I can do it, just not terribly good at it not enough practice.



There was a company out called...oh heck duraseal? Durafix? Something like that, they were producing a fluxless or prefluxed rod you could use with a standard torch and supposedly weld alumnium. Dunno how well it would work, you have to get it awful hot...

13BAce 06-27-2002 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Rotarydragon' date='Jun 27 2002, 09:26 AM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 27 2002, 05:36 AM'][quote name='Rotarydragon' date='Jun 26 2002, 07:39 PM'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 26 2002, 08:09 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jun 24 2002, 07:22 PM'][quote name='1Revvin7' date='Jun 24 2002, 04:56 PM']aluminum is hard to weld https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/angry.png

Yeah, but experienced welders do it in a snap. B)[/quote]

yes, i've only practiced on cans. never had a reason to. Maybe I'll go weld some airplanes https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]



Yeah it's a pain in the arse to get going and not get to hot and . . . .



TIG does work better, I've heard of guys using some other sort of MAP gas but I can't remember what it was.



I seem to recall someone welding aluminum to steel with a particular type of flux but I can't be certain I'm not a welder just a hack.[/quote]

Don't they use 100% argon as the shileding gas?[/quote]



Don't quote me on it but if I remember right it's a mix of helium and argon...or was it argon and something else?



Bleh. It's been awhile and I was never the welder it was my uncle or a guy I worked with on the big rigs. I can do it, just not terribly good at it not enough practice.



There was a company out called...oh heck duraseal? Durafix? Something like that, they were producing a fluxless or prefluxed rod you could use with a standard torch and supposedly weld alumnium. Dunno how well it would work, you have to get it awful hot...[/quote]

The manual for my MIG welder says to use 100 % argon for aluminum. For steel it's a mix of carbon dioxide and argon...I think. The manual is in the "garage" and I don't feel like looking for it. :P


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