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WishIhadaRX7 06-11-2003 08:34 AM

Alright, I was originaly planning on buying an FD, however after looking at the intial purchase price (~16K) plus all the reliability mods (~2k) plus the fact that it would have to function as a daily driver. Oh yeah and I'm trying to pay for school at the same time, it was then that I realized this was a project better suited for sometime in the future.



In lieu of these developments, I was wondering what I could expect an FC in decent shape would cost (turbo or n/a) plus what I should spend on it to get changed once I get the car (basic things).



Any help will be greatly appreciated.



Thanks.

rmaiersg 06-11-2003 12:20 PM

You could get a decent tuirbo II for 3k. Like nice body, decent mileage. I'd first get and Full exhaust like the racing beat, FCD, fuel pump, and port the wastegate. That'll make your car a little more reliable if you're are not making too much more boost than stock. Go to fc3s-pro.com think it is. It has a lot of info that would be helpful to you.

Turbo II 06-11-2003 12:32 PM

depends what year u are looking for they car run anywhere between 1500 - 6000 for a decent one. if u want a reliable rotary go with an n/a. wont be as fast as a TII but they do make great autox cars

WishIhadaRX7 06-11-2003 02:33 PM

Thanks for the input.



rmaiersg, what is a FCD, and hwo much $$ do you think it would take to get a turbo II up and ready to go with those mods?



Do you guys think n/a is necessary for a daily driver, or not?

Rotaryman13b 06-11-2003 03:45 PM

The FCD stands for Fuel Cut Defender, is a device that stops the stock ECU from cutting fuel to the rear rotor when the boost exceeds a preset boost level, FC Rx-7's are restricted to 8.6 pounds of boost, that is, what I gathered. How it does that is by tricking your car into thinking its boosting less than it actually is. But from what I have read on this forum as well as other forums dedicated to Rx-7's an FCD should come "AFTER" you upgrade your fuel system. Putting one on before you have done so can do more harm than good.



FCD's are a sub 100$ Item around 80$ or so, as I recall I think on teamfc3s.org there is a technical article on how to make your own. The fuel pump is also around 80$ or so you can find a Walbro 255lph kit on ebay, they are always there. As far as the racing beat exhaust system, depending on the emmisions where you live (if you care ) you can either get a turbo back or a cat back system. the turbo back kit replaces everything from the turbo to the mufflers, where the catback is from the cat and back. the cat back is about 600$ and the Turbo back is about 800$.



If you get a non turbo fc the cat back system is about 580$ and you wouldn't have to worry about the FCD.



just my 2 cents worth

rmaiersg 06-11-2003 04:17 PM

I use my tII as a daily driver. It's kind of a bitch b/c the suspension is soooo stiff but it's still fun. As long as you allow the turbo to cool off before you shut it off, change the oil frequently, and follow a few other procedures you shouldn't have too many problems using a TII as a daily driver.



I deliver pizzas in mine. Sucks for the gas but it makes it one hell of a job. And i make pretty good money.

WishIhadaRX7 06-11-2003 04:22 PM

So, what I am getting is that for less than 5k I can have a fairly decent turbo II and do all the necessary reliability mods?



If so, then I am very excited as that would be well in my price range.



Thanks again!

rmaiersg 06-11-2003 04:47 PM

A lot of reliability mods are really cheap some of them free. With 5k you can get a TII that does low 13s. Do you plan on doing the work yourself?

FCmaniac 06-11-2003 06:20 PM

Check out the FAQ section and read this thread too: Buying an RX-7

WishIhadaRX7 06-11-2003 06:31 PM

Yeah, I plan on doing the work myself (at least what I can) some things like porting I think I could learn (I have machining experience) but I would rather not experiment on some rotor housings that I would have to replace.



BTW, I've been looking at autotrader and I can't find any decent tII's for less 5k. Are people just asking way more than they expect to get or what?

M's 06-11-2003 07:23 PM

Don't get too excited these cars are a lot of fun but they're a big pain in the ass too. I'd get the TII but then buy something else for a daily driver. I'm buying a truck soon because my tII is a money pit

WishIhadaRX7 06-12-2003 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by M's' date='Jun 11 2003, 04:23 PM
I'm buying a truck soon because my tII is a money pit

How much have you spent on it so far? What all have you had to do to it?

MazdaEnthused 06-12-2003 09:36 AM

mines the same thing i've put over a grand into it now with all new brake assemblys... gas tank... fuel filter... new moon roof... i paid 365 for the car itself and i thought yea i was gonna fire this sucker up right in this womens driveway and i was gonna get it home but we ended up having to rent a dolley and towing it home our selfs (and when they say DONT BACK THE DOLLEY UP WITH THE CAR ON IT>>> THEY MEAN DONT BACK THE DOLLEY UP BECAUSE IT DOESNT) but its been fun at least its not sitting in my garage (its in my next door neighbors)

Gen2RXSeven 06-12-2003 07:04 PM

wow, Didn't know that FC's were going for that much, I got my FB for $600 with body in Real good condition, it would run, and my FC, 88 GXL 2+2, I got for $600 with it needing 2 fenders, a moon roof, and paint job to be in Great shape. (fenders arent too bad, minor collision on the pass. fender, and Driver Fender curling in by the door. and moon roof is just a few rust spots)

Rob x-7 06-12-2003 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Gen2RXSeven' date='Jun 12 2003, 08:04 PM
wow, Didn't know that FC's were going for that much, I got my FB for $600 with body in Real good condition, it would run, and my FC, 88 GXL 2+2, I got for $600 with it needing 2 fenders, a moon roof, and paint job to be in Great shape. (fenders arent too bad, minor collision on the pass. fender, and Driver Fender curling in by the door. and moon roof is just a few rust spots)

You paid too much for that GXL, $600 and it had all that damage, rust, and bad

paint??



Where are these people when I need to sell a car?

Nemesis 06-12-2003 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jun 12 2003, 06:15 PM
You paid too much for that GXL, $600 and it had all that damage, rust, and bad

paint??



Where are these people when I need to sell a car?

Your cars are too nice when you sell them. Outta their price range. You can only overcharge up to about $1500. When there is more cash required than that, you are likely doing business with someone that has multiple active brain cells. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

MazdaEnthused 06-12-2003 11:22 PM

yea look around and you can get sweet deals and i've even heard of a couple people getting better ones then me

WishIhadaRX7 06-13-2003 07:19 AM

The average Turbo II goes for less than 1k? Really? How much money would have to be spent (on average) to bring a sub 1k Turbo II to good condition.

Nemesis 06-13-2003 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by WishIhadaRX7' date='Jun 13 2003, 06:19 AM
The average Turbo II goes for less than 1k? Really? How much money would have to be spent (on average) to bring a sub 1k Turbo II to good condition.

That's not true, most T2 are in the $3000 range that I see for sale. One;s in good condition anyway. A beat up one will generally cost between $1200 - $2000, with them being in a wide range of conditions. Just make sure you check it over thoroughly. I personally like to have a compression test done before I purchase an FC.

Rotaryman13b 06-13-2003 03:11 PM

here's a nice site to help you find an Rx-7, it tells you what to look for, what to avoid, and what you can use as bargaining chips!



http://rx7.voodoobox.net/infofaq/bguide/bguide.html

Rob x-7 06-13-2003 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Nemesis' date='Jun 12 2003, 09:51 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 12 2003, 06:15 PM'] You paid too much for that GXL, $600 and it had all that damage, rust, and bad

paint??



Where are these people when I need to sell a car?

Your cars are too nice when you sell them. Outta their price range. You can only overcharge up to about $1500. When there is more cash required than that, you are likely doing business with someone that has multiple active brain cells. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif [/quote]

I sold a GXL over the summer, it had 125,000 miles or some ****,

good paint, shined and everything, no dents, nice interior, no stereo,

ac worked but didnt blow cold, it ran like a champ, no smoke, just

tuned it up, fully loaded with rear spoiler, working moonroof, seat had no rips in it, I was asking $1700 I sold it for $1500.



So compare the car I sold for $1500 to the $600 and you see

why I say $600 was too much, lol.



I got the GXL for $500.

I sold the other vert I had for $4500, thinking of going in the vert restoring

and selling biz, got alot of calls for the car, wish I had 5 more to sell!

Nemesis 06-13-2003 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jun 13 2003, 05:17 PM
[quote name='Nemesis' date='Jun 12 2003, 09:51 PM'] [quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jun 12 2003, 06:15 PM'] You paid too much for that GXL, $600 and it had all that damage, rust, and bad

paint??



Where are these people when I need to sell a car?

Your cars are too nice when you sell them. Outta their price range. You can only overcharge up to about $1500. When there is more cash required than that, you are likely doing business with someone that has multiple active brain cells. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif [/quote]

I sold a GXL over the summer, it had 125,000 miles or some ****,

good paint, shined and everything, no dents, nice interior, no stereo,

ac worked but didnt blow cold, it ran like a champ, no smoke, just

tuned it up, fully loaded with rear spoiler, working moonroof, seat had no rips in it, I was asking $1700 I sold it for $1500.



So compare the car I sold for $1500 to the $600 and you see

why I say $600 was too much, lol.



I got the GXL for $500.

I sold the other vert I had for $4500, thinking of going in the vert restoring

and selling biz, got alot of calls for the car, wish I had 5 more to sell! [/quote]

The vert you sold was a sweet car. Not many around in that condition. If I was in the market for a vert, I would have jumped on it.

rx7machine 06-13-2003 10:20 PM

There's a possibility I may be selling my '87 n/a.. but not too sure yet.. I believe she has like 75K miles on her..

MazdaEnthused 06-14-2003 04:26 PM

as long as you dont need all new brake assembly and a gas tank and fuel pump and moonroof... and ps cooling lines.... much more (like i did) you wont have to spend a grand on it (like i did) but its worth it if you LOVE To do this type of thing.


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