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88Turbo 02-20-2003 10:58 PM

Does anyone know where the primary fuel rail is located, and if so, do the n/a's have a test point? If it is where I think it is, underneath the sec. fuel rail and under the manifold, I am screwed. I have to have access to a test point or I am going to have to remove it altogether.



thanks,



jw

'79rx7 02-20-2003 11:21 PM

Sadly, yes it is under the UIM, I'm confused by test point though???

88Turbo 02-20-2003 11:27 PM

Well, heres the deal, I have to have a place to connect my fuel solenoid to the primary fuel rail. I have a NOS kit designed for my 88 n/a 7, and that is what the instructions recommend to do. I know it has to be on the primary side, but why can I not intercept the line before it reaches the rail. I guess I will have to call NOS tommorrow. Other than that, my system is in.

88Turbo 02-20-2003 11:30 PM

This is the only place I could mount the bottle and amazingly enough, I can still open the hatch doors.

'79rx7 02-20-2003 11:47 PM

Better hope any cops don't see that! You might be able to connect it by the oil filter before it gets to the rail, but that may not be the same, hopefully you won't have to take the UIM off, I've had to do it 3 times in the past week, it's no fun; but i can take it all apart in about 10 minutes now

88Turbo 02-20-2003 11:52 PM

For some reason I am thinking that you were putting NOS on one of yours. Maybe on you Turbo. Or am I thinking of someone else. I did call the Tulsa Police and the Oklahoma Highway patrol, there is nothing on the books regarding NOS. They both told just to not blow myself up. hahah, anyway, I was told that I could not be cited for having the bottle in the car.

'79rx7 02-21-2003 12:05 AM

Your right i am putting NOS on mine but, I don't have a Turbo, It's the 79 in my avatar. I've heard that around here in MO that they can give you like a $20 ticket if they see it hooked up, so mines hiding in the hatch way back on the passenger side in the corner, under the carpet; between the tint the roll cage and more tint you can't see it with the door open even

88Turbo 02-21-2003 12:09 AM

Cool, I would like to see that.

1Revvin7 02-21-2003 12:24 AM

Cool, let us know how it works out for you, why the hell didn't I get nitro when i was n/a??????

dac 02-21-2003 12:28 AM

You tap the bolt on the BANJO bolt on the end of the fuel rail. That then runs to your soleniod.



Is NOS illegal in MO? I never heard that a cop could give you a ticket for using NOS.



I do know you won't be able to run at your local strip without a NHRA approved safety relief vavle vented to the outside of the car.



I saw a guy's bottle pop last summer. Pretty cool, vented the whole bottle.



This is the best pic I could find of mine:

http://www.daczone.com/SIDEVIEW.jpg



That's the Fuel feed at the backside of the SEC fuel rail. The rails join via a common hose and then are fed back to the tank via the regulator at the front of the SEC fuel rail.

88Turbo 02-21-2003 12:30 AM

I will let you all know, this system will be boosting 50hp, supposedly.

88Turbo 02-21-2003 12:34 AM

Hey dac, is that the line next to the firewall, I thought that was the secondary fuel rail. Or did you have to get to the one underneath? I need help.

88Turbo 02-21-2003 10:04 PM

I called NOS today and they told me to intercept my primary fuel line. Supposed to work just fine. Now I have it all in, just need to get my bottle filled and try her out.

dac 02-22-2003 01:42 AM

The Primary and Sec fuel rails are joined. The same fuel runs through both of them. Yes that is the SEC (TOP) rail which is pretty easy to get to. Yes against the firewall. It probably looks very different because it's in my Suzuki.



NOS provides a TAP and you drill the BANJO bolt, tap it and screw in the right angle fitting which connects the FUEL line to the soleniod.



It's not as bad as it sounds. Just make sure the motor is cool, and you have a rag ready when you remove the bolt. Also caution... there could be 35 PSI of fuel in that rail.

Seppuku 02-22-2003 01:54 AM

wouldnt it be best to depresurise the fuel system first?

88Turbo 02-22-2003 08:45 AM

I did depressurise the fuel system, and now I cant seem to get pressure back on it. Turns out Summit sent me the wrong kit, I ordered a dry kit for a n/a, they sent me a wet kit for a turbo. So I dont have the tap and one more little fitting, I had to go to a fuel shop here in town and bought the right fittings. Thanks dac, if this doenst work out, I will tap the banjo fitting, that would look better anyway.

dac 02-22-2003 11:38 AM

The main components should be the same. (Although if it is a dry system you'll be missing the fuel soleniod and hoses and your NOS nozzles won't have the fuel inlet on them.)



If you let the motor SIT... It should depressurize itself. Maybe that is leaking injectors. I have a fuel pressure gauge on my fuel rail and after a couple of hours.. my 35 PSI is gone. I assumed it was going back into the tank.



Before I replaced my injectors it would do this in just 5 minutes. Now it takes much much longer.

88Turbo 02-22-2003 11:50 PM

I have it all in good working order, with a little patience, life is sweet. Thanks for the info guys, it is good to have help.

bradley87se 02-23-2003 11:03 PM

about the cops...at least in the state on VA. My friend recently got pulled over for "exhaust noise" in his prelude. He had a NOS system installed in his car. Becuase of suspection of illegal substances they searched his car and found the bottle in the trunk. You are aloud to have a BOTTLE in your car but to have it hooked up will get you a fine. As for my friend he managed to get illegal exhaust, possesion of marijuana, possesion of alcohol under the age of 21, NOS, and a dead inspection all in one night. HA! thats what happens when you drive a honda

88Turbo 02-24-2003 09:03 PM

wow, that sucks!


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