well today i finally started removing **** on my 88 TII to put in new engine took off the hood, removed battery, intercooler, power streering pump, A/C condenser, alternater, fan, fan shroud, and air pump. only worked on it for 3-4 hour not to bad i guess for my engine swap. for tommorrow removal of thorttle body, upper intake manifold, rats nest along with all other hoses and ****. if any one has any advice for me it is more then welcomed.i am planning to pull engine and transmission together. also if i get to it i will remove the turbo. will post pictures of progress tomorrow until then plz let me know what u guys think



-James NJ

well today i got rid of all the unneeded **** basically brought it down to the block and turbo. tomorrow i will be disconnecting the motor mounts, trans crossmember, all trans wiring, and will be disconnecting the down pipe from the turbo. also i will probly disconnect all a/c, and power streering lines seeing that they will not be needed any more. if any one has any helpful advice it will be greatly appreciated. i cant wait to finish cleaning up the engine bay alot of degreaser will be needed. will post pics of progress later tonight or tomm. BTW does any one know where i can get a new or good conditioned engine wiring harness the owner of the car before me used medical tape around the thing and made awful connections added up with 20 years of grease the things not even worth trying to revive.

Sounds like you're doing pretty well all by yourself. Puttin' it back in is a little more difficult, but putting the tranny/engine combo in at once solves the alignment issue.



Your best bet for a wiring harness is to find a good used one. They come up on ebay all the time. Be prepared to pay about a hundred.



Cheers

yeah i heard that it might be a little more difficult but its ok. i looked on ebay could only find a N/A wiring harness. does any one on here have a good conditiond 88 T2 engine wiring harness i could purchase off them if so just let me know. well im gonna go and start my mission for today after i finish unbolting and removing the last of the engine bay im going to do the TB mod and start porting it hopefully will have pix up later today

two more things to do remove trans crossmember and down pipe think im gonna need an impact gun for theses tried by hand not happening. did every thing else the old fashion way too. gonna eat some lunch and then start taking apart my TB does any one have any advice for me while doing this?

Did you have someone drain the freon or did you do that yourself and if so, how?

i just unbolt the compressor from the bracket and push it to the side.

yaeh i drained the freon i have my a/c recory and recycling license rofl even though i really do but any way i have pix and i did the TB mob and roughly ported it if i can get ur guys advice would be helpful its my first

time and i think i came out well considering i used a dewalt drill and a grinding stone lol

ok here are the pic tures the first 2 are of TB before port the others are the port job. also theres a picture of all the stuff that came out thats not going back in lol. there are also some dismantled engine bay pictures. oh yeah and the TB mod. i got alot of progres done yesterday and today. its almost time to pull the mother out. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

i love the piles of crap that you make doing this... i have one too.

yeah i think more came out thens acuallygoin back in. lol

does ne one have any comments for my porting as you can see i took out the bridge from wher the old butterfly shaft used to ride. also i tried making it as areodynamic as posible w/o going crazy tomorrow i will be in search of a dremal i can use seeing i didnt have the proper tools to get in to detail today, but tomorrows another day. any advice is greatly welcomed TYVM

-James NJ

geez james posting up a storm and not even mentioning that the great kevin is assisting you?



oh and no one needs to know how we drained the freon lol, *BOOM*



kevin.

im srry my good friend kevin also gave me a hand in alot of this after a long day of work and sunday hopfully we will pull it out and kevin u crazy shyt ur not supposed to unveal our top secret a/c removal tactics. come on you know you cant talk about the "boom" and us having to run out the garage feelin like we just took a shot of nitrous LOL.

well its finally ready to come out today just finished disconnecting downpipe from cat (much easier than disconnecting from turbo), and the transmission crossmember. now all i need to do is wake up my good friend kevin(who was probly up all night)lol and we should have the new engine in, in a few hours. i need to clean up the engine bay a little bit first

ok so i lied the new engine isnt in today, but hopefully will be in by next week. finally, woke kevin up this afternoon we picked up the new engine from his garage. then we pulled the engine and transmission out together was pretty easy considering kevin brought over his 3 ton cherry picker. pullled the trans and turbo off of the engine to my surprise kevin said the turbo was in fairly good condition. tomorrow i have my work cut out for me just searched for the auto- manual power steering rack thread will do that along with putting in new engine mount and a through cleaning of the engine bay. if anyone knows of anything i can do to the car while the engine is out let me know



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looks like we are both doing the same thing, i too have removed around 100 pounds of useless (well to me useless) crap. It sould really make it easy to work on, clean, and it should run cooler. I am about to remove the electrical tape, and the wire loom from the engine harness and inspect each wire. Does anyone know of a wire wrap that i could use rather than electrical tape to wrap up the wires again, i remember seeing it somewhere but dont remember what its called.I am currently working on polishing everything aluminum on the engine and just cleaning the hell out of the internal and external parts. Id really like to find a way to remount the powersteering pump to cleanup the look of it still atached to the engine, any ideas?

I'm not sure who else sells this stuff, but I ran across it while looking at his block off plates.



Self-Fusing High Heat Engine Harness Wrap

under Haltech/EMS Upgrades - http://www.2751engineering.com/2751parts.html

yea banazaitoyota also sells that sealing tape, as does summit and a few other places nowadays, great harness wrap.



I';m lettin james get everything organized the way he wants it for now before we throw the motor in. i need to pull off his old flywheel and dismount the turbo from the old manifold (fcuking stripped nut).



then he'll be waiting for his RTek.



everything went rather smoothly.



it *was* a pretty much stock all original 1988 T2 with around 70k miles on it. the previous owner (1 owner car) was a hack of a mechanic so there are lots of little things to focus on before throwing the engine back in.



cant wait to get it running tho....as my yellow car sits and cries about fedex losing it's motor.



kevin.

ok every thing is organized and ready just waiting on delivery of new koyo aluminum radiator and new 6 puck clutch disc then will be ready to drop in. i got my flywheel cut yesterday, rtek 2.0, 750cc injectors, fiero efan with thremal switchand all other kinds of goodies i also ported my wastegate cant wait to get her running and feel the difference of before and after it should be awsome

Dude, pulling all of that stuff of is a waste of time. Could've pulled the motor out with just the UIM/TB, wiring harness pulled through the firewall, motor mounts undone, WITH the tranny attached. I did it, and it works like a charm. All the time it took was about 3 hours, maybe 4 hours.



But I guess you have turbo, so that may take longer.



What are the plans for everything? Just doing a stock setup?

rowtareh... i dont need pointers for removing motors, thank ya ver. much https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png



he wanted to redo numerous amounts of things under the hood, and its as much of a restoration as it is a performance thing. we want it to look good and not look like a hack job.



if i wanted i could've swapped motors completely up and running in like half a day....but that's not doing it right.



this isn't meant to be halfassed. we inspected everything and anything i saw a problem with I told james to replace it and he gladfully did.



james wants his t2 to eventually be at the level as my yellow t2 to give you an idea of why it we took our time.



just letting ya know, you know that i know what im doing so im just letting you know im helping mastermind this creation https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



For now he's going to run the stock s4 turbo with this motor just to get any and all bugs out. then we're going to take a good look at his overall goals and I'll match him up with a turbo setup, by that point i should have some nice manifolds and other custom work going on so I can build him something nice.



kevin.

^^kevin's the man

kevin, impregnate me with your seed. NOW!



Yeah, I know, I was just saying you could pull all of that stuff off later when ya yank it out. I wonder how different it is pulling a T2 compared to an NA. I have seriously only seen ONE T2 before. ONE!!! N/A's out the ass though of course.

you should come down to my place sometime this winter, i'll finally have the yellow t2 in the new garage, james' should be running...and my n/a is well an n/a.



but i have lots of fun stuff https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png. or you can wait till the yellow car runs and have some real fun lol.



anyway after re-reading what you said we actually pulled the motor just like you described except instead of pulling the harness thru the wall we unplugged all the stuf on the motor, wouldve been quicker to pull the harness through the wall but it was fragile lol.



we had the motor out in notime, driveshaft gave us a tad of trouble for a minute or so.



kevin.

All I have is a wrecked 89 GXL that is being parted out. I got no fun toys at all!



The only problem i had was the stupid shifter kept hitting the damn transmission tunnel. It was too difficult to do all the bolts on the transmission to the block, so I just yanked it all together. I had the 2 motor mount bolts, the driveshaft's 4 bolts, harness through the firewall, a/c condenser lines, and power steering lines undone, and just yanked it. Took all of maybe 30 minutes to actually pull the motor out. Longest part was the damned exhaust.



Yer in Jerzee right? And I want to buy your T2 from ya still man, that thing is georgeous!!!

after all the fighting ive had to do with fedex to get reimbursed for my lost housings ill be hanging on to it for longer then i was going to, but dont worry ill be doing plenty of t2 projects all with the same quality https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png.



hell if you buy a t2 you can give it to me and ill get it lookign and running excellently....it costs $$$ tho, lots of it lol. doing my t2 correctly cost way more then ever projected but i know itll be fun after its all said and done.



kevin.



ps. god i hate fedex.

I am hopefully buying a roller TII that has no rust and in good shape soon. I want to the 13b-REW swap. I just need another rotary, and why not do a TII with a good powerplant.



Budget is pretty much 12k and the time span is no big deal at all. I don't care if it takes 5 years.



Hey, you went to LincolnTech right? I think I remember you saying you did go there.

james is in lincoln right now, i went there.



12k budget? and youre gonna swap in a brew? bleh with 12k keeping the stock 13bt you could make either serious power or reliable fun numbers (400-ish, but pretty reliable). hell james is probably around 4k right now and he should make decent power, and after we swap in a new turbo he should be around $6k and have reliable fun power. my other t2 of course, well i dont even want to think about dollar signs.



kevin.

Well, the problem with the TII that I am looking at has no front bumper, mirrors, or an interior. So that's why I set it higher than normal. I just like the look of the BREW in the engine bay. But I guess the time will come when I want to choose an engine. Turbo kit is undetermined right now. I may just say screw it and put a stock s4 13bt and just enjoy it. Everything is pretty much up in the air as far as the power goals are concerned. 400hp fd's scare me, so I am probably gonna stay within 300-350hp. I know it's pretty easy with the BNR stage 2 turbo. Undetermined ECU also.



Going onto LincolnTech, did you enjoy it there? Was it useful for what you are doing on a day to day basis? I have looked into it alot. I just need to know is it really worth going to?

if you want the brew look just put the fd manifold on a 13bt...thats the only noticeable thing...well the only REALLY noticeable thing to MOST people lol.



350hp in a nice light fc is fun and faster then youd imagine.



12k will give you enough to build it right.



as for lincoln tech....personally i considered it simply something to put on my resume, it gives you something to make you stand out a bit more on your interviews. did it help me...ehh it helps you learn the theories behind how things operate, but not so much as to how to work on the car itself. we have a lincoln tech kid in my shop right now as an intern, kid doesnt even know where to put the oil into the engine or how to tighten wheels. Its what you make of it really. if you go there and focus on the work and everything you'll know a decent amount but you still wont be an a-tech. you need hands on everyday to really learn how to work on cars.



in summary, lincoln is good for learning the basics of hands on work and the theories of the parts youll be replacing such as how the o2 sensors work and bla bla bla. its also setup like a work environment with harsh penalities for lateness and absences. You will learn more in 6 months at a shop then in the 12 months at lincoln tech tho, but lincoln tech provides a decent foundation on which to build your knowledge onto.



Personally i went to LTI for 15 months (that was the old setup) in january it will be 3 years since i graduated. I am now the head tech at my shop and im making around 60k a year right now (before taxes). I have 3 ASE's which i passed my first time, and will be signing up for more this round. I do anything/everything in the shop....and im 22. I'm probably classified as a B-Tech because i've had limited experience with timing belts and the internals of engines at least while at work...which is all that counts. I do know guys from my class who are still lube techs making $8/hour and doing stupid work. So like i said...it's all what you make of it.



and just a bit more about my work, the former head tech was pretty good but decided to move on and so i took over. I increased our profit by about $15-20k a week. Alignments alone i increased 330%. but im a modest fellow. But once i leave this job, probably next year, i'll probably be looking at $80k or more a year with my qualifications.



kevin.

I may just go for the s4 13bt. They are priced at around 1k, which is dirt cheap. Might rebuild it, might not. Ports will be kept stock, I will probably go with the BNR stage 2 turbo setup, fmic, and all the other stuff for everything to run properly. I just want a nice, fast, clean TII. I don't want an FD, I like em and all, but the FC is just so much cooler. Especially if it's an S4, my 20 year old car just SPANKED your new car. hehe.





well, i got a job at sears auto center. it will help out alot I believe. I am

just considering lincoln tech, because getting into a dealership or larger shop that does everything will take me another 1-2 years. which is fine. i don't want to rush anything right now, because I am not really sure if I want to do auto mechanics for my career. i might consider diesel instead though. a guy at my work is in the BMW step program, and he says it is badass. he just graduated this July.

well since james hasnt posted, we got his car started on sunday, waterpump was pissing out coolant so we'll put a new one on there and we need a few more bits and pieces. we have to set the timing and make sure everythings good, we had it running for like a total of like 30 seconds or a minute, i wanted to be careful since the coolant was leaking out.



kevin.

sounds good kevin. i should be getting that roller I told you about in two weeks. gotta get the one I have now to be gone soon though. can't have two nonrunning FC's sitting in the driveway.

ok its been a while i know but today kevin came over set the timing and fixed a minor coolant leak just need to set coolant thermal switch for the e fan then should be abled to take her on a ride. kevin adjusted the tps and timing and the car starts right up idle is alot more choppy then was originally kev said it was do to the new port but once you bring the rpms up a little this thing sounds like a ****** monster im so stoked cant wait to drive it. and monday or tuesday i have alot of suspention stuff coming from mazda trix. now just have to get it registered. and btw just started the last of my classes at lincoln tech and as kevin said it really is only good for a reference for a job and learnig out the book as kevin said u learn a lot more in a private shop hence why im alway hanging at kevs shop you learn alot watching whats going on and how things are done. even though i will be installing my new suspension parts in the steering and suspention class with in the next month

yea as james said we got his car up and running today. Had to re-stab the CAS as it must not have lined up properly but as soon as i re-stabbed it you could her the difference and as i slowly adjusted it with the light on all of a sudden it came alive. A little tweaking of te TPS and it was idling like a champ. Still need to touch up a bit of te idle controls due to it trying to stall on deceleratio and it also needs to seat in a little bit as in total it has only like five minutes of run time.



Only problem we had after replacing the water pump was some miscommunication between me and james i thought he removed the thermowax so i told him to block off the rear hose, he didnt remove the thermowax tho so he left the top coolant hose connected, so the TB was throwing up coolant for a bit.



All in all its going good, not 100% yet i need a good days worth of time tweaking **** nd it needs to seal itself up a bit more, and we need to fix an exhaust leak and i think it will be great. it sounds ncie at around 2500rpms, like its really ready to get out on the highway.



kevin.