I found a nice set of turbo's off of a FD, and was just curious if they would bolt up on my FC. I know this has probably been asked, but I searched and found nothing. My car is a 90' Vert, I'm thinking about turbo-ing my N/A, but more than likely I'm going to go with a turbo II motor. I'm really just curious if the fd twins will bolt up, and if they will, will they fit in the engine bay without hitting anything, like the wheelwell, or anything like that.
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You cant use the stock intake manifold. The turbos will never clear. You may be able to make a TII manifold work, but the fabrication wont justify the gains. The FD twins are not good enough to be worthwhile to put onto an FC.
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ok, thanks, that what I needed to know.
I am still trying to find someone that can fabricate a turbo manifold to use the turbo that I have. this is becoming a pain in the ass because no one around here wants to mess with it, and I can't find anyone online that has a clue what I'm talking about with my exaust side being diferent from a garrett. it is a kkk k27, instead of the 2 oval/rectange things coming into the exaust turbine, it has one big round hole, so none of the manifolds will fit it. all i really need is a manifold that is already made, just with a different flange. I have some pics if that might help..... just lemme know. If anyone knows anything about this PLEASE let me know. I need all the help i can get. |
There is someone that made an adapter piece themselves for the turbo to fit with the n/a manifolds on this forum, I cannot remember right off the bat though.
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I think blitz turbo kits use kkk turbos. Did you check them?
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no, didn't know about the blitz... I'll check into it.
and if someone remembers who made the fd turbos fit, that would be great. |
the blitz uses the same turbo that i have, kkk k27, but the flange is still different, I guess mine has a different exaust housing.
Mine is oem equipment on the porsche carerra turbo, at least thats what I've been told a few times. |
Originally Posted by venomrx7' date='Jun 13 2004, 10:25 AM
no, didn't know about the blitz... I'll check into it.
and if someone remembers who made the fd turbos fit, that would be great. http://www.2751engineering.com/cosmo0519_2.jpg you also have to move the radiator, the actuators for the wg's dont clear |
oh ok, thanks.
I guess I'll stick with building a whole new manifold for the turbo I have. |
Originally Posted by venomrx7' date='Jun 13 2004, 12:15 PM
oh ok, thanks.
I guess I'll stick with building a whole new manifold for the turbo I have. |
its just becoming a pain in the ass trying to find someone to fab me up a manifold. errrrr.......
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Or you can get that Blitz manifold and get the exhaust housing that fits it. Im sure if you look hard enough you will find one.
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I think Im just going to get a pre made manifold and cut off the flange that comes on it and get the shop down the rad to cut a new one with the cnc, and then bend the pipes on the manifold to fit, and weld the new flange on. I think it will work.
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We are starting to gear up to offer mild-steel tube turbo exhaust manifolds that you can weld on whatever flanges to suit your turbo and wastegate choices. The target price is $400 (or less), depending on what you want. It's not listed, but send hIGGI email from here...
http://rx7cz.net/shop/ -Ted |
If I sent him the dememnions of the flange that I need, would he weld it on for me. I sold my welder......
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Yes, they have CNC capacbilities and turning a custom flange for you shouldn't be a problem.
-Ted |
would that still be 400? with the turbo, engine, and wastegate flanges welded on?
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another option is to pick up one of the OBX manifolds cheap on Ebay, check the measurements on them, setting your turbo on top of the T4 flange to get an idea of the fit, then having the flange removed, and your correct flange put on. If you do not want to use the manifold, you can always resell it on ebay again. I picked up 2 FD OBX/SSautochrome manifolds for less than 100 each.
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where did you find them for less than a hundred? damn. was that ebay, Ive seen them up at 175 or higher.
still have one of them? and would that fit in the fc engine bay? |
the main difference on a FC manifold, and a FD manifold is the wastegate placement. I could ship you one and let you use it for fit if you want, see if it will work for you. then we could work something out if you want to keep it.
E-mail me (so I can keep track of what were doing) and I will let you know what we need to do. I can bring it to rotorfest if you want to save on Shipping costs. |
I'm not gonna be able to make it to rotorfest I don't think....
I'll pm you and wok somethingout when the time comes. its gonna be a while, I'm just figureing out stuff and planning ahead of time for the project. thanks for the offer, I'll probably do that if you still have them when I need it. |
Originally Posted by venomrx7' date='Jun 15 2004, 04:58 PM
would that still be 400? with the turbo, engine, and wastegate flanges welded on?
We were only talking initial cost on how much to replicate his GT3540 set-up. -Ted |
Originally Posted by TheCamel' date='Jun 16 2004, 01:48 AM
the main difference on a FC manifold, and a FD manifold is the wastegate placement. I could ship you one and let you use it for fit if you want, see if it will work for you. then we could work something out if you want to keep it.
I know the XS Engineering units for the FD cannot fit on the FC without some kinda spacer. -Ted |
If I got another flange from, say, racingbeat and put it inbetween the manifold and the engine would that space it out enough? I know i need a second gasket, but it still would save me some cash.
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Originally Posted by RETed' date='Jun 17 2004, 06:30 PM
Actually, one of the bigger problems is the fact that FD turbos can be mounted closer to the engine. The lower intake manifold has a lower profile, and FD's run their turbos closer - most of these aftermarket turbo exhaust manifolds just will not work.
I know the XS Engineering units for the FD cannot fit on the FC without some kinda spacer. -Ted |
well. um. due to financial issues, and to the fact that I really do not have any time to do it, this project is going to be put on hold for a few years, till I finish college and get a job and have a steady income.
Thanks to everyone for their time and advise, and camel, thanks for the offer on the manifold. being that I am only 17, and am about to start my senior year, I know that I will want to spend my money and time on things other than the car. I'm not getting rid of the car, I'm just going to store it till after college. I'm not gonna leave here though, I'll still come and visit https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png |
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