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XpLicit Fc3s 06-30-2002 01:43 PM

Im really into both the 240sx and the rx7. Im 17 and got 4500 set aside for a car and im not really sure which one to get. I plan on doing mods to my car when i earn more money from work. If i do get the 240sx i want to do a sr20det swap . How would the sr20det compare with a turbo II. Also is it better to just buy an N/A rx7 and doing a swap in the future or just saving and buying a turbo II. Im aware of how much care and attention rotaries need. Right now im driving a 90 crap brown mini van and im sick of it. Can you guys give me your opinion on what you would do?



thanks

chronicspeed 06-30-2002 02:33 PM

buy a turbo II https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

turborotor 06-30-2002 03:05 PM

Save your money. Get a TII. A TII and a few mods and you have a fast decent car.



If you start playing with a 240sx and make it turbo, where are you going to get engine parts for that turbo engine easily?



C

Infini IV 06-30-2002 03:16 PM

Sr20det parts aren't hard to find, and some parts are even cheaper than 13bt parts! But then again, you do want a car that was built from scratch to handle great don't you. If so, get the Turbo 2. S13's tend to have a little soft handling and a lot of quality problems. I do see a lot more suspension parts for the S13 though. As far as power, rotary all the way! The worst part of getting a rotary is finding a good qualified rotary mechanic. That is, if you don't plan to learn anything about the car.

vosko 06-30-2002 03:35 PM

making a S13 into a sr20det will cost alot of money. depends how much work you want to do. a turboII has everything you need from the factory https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

Rob x-7 06-30-2002 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by XpLicit Fc3s' date='Jun 30 2002, 02:43 PM
Im really into both the 240sx and the rx7. Im 17 and got 4500 set aside for a car and im not really sure which one to get. I plan on doing mods to my car when i earn more money from work. If i do get the 240sx i want to do a sr20det swap . How would the sr20det compare with a turbo II. Also is it better to just buy an N/A rx7 and doing a swap in the future or just saving and buying a turbo II. Im aware of how much care and attention rotaries need. Right now im driving a 90 crap brown mini van and im sick of it. Can you guys give me your opinion on what you would do?



thanks

My advice is to get a TII, and keep the crap brown mini-van as a support vehicle.

XpLicit Fc3s 06-30-2002 06:52 PM

The 240sx is suppose to have pretty good handling. It has good weight distribution and theres plenty of after market to fix up the suspension. A front clip and should come with everything you need and isnt too expensive around 2000 for a red top and the engine is direct bolt on. The only thing that kinda bothers me about going sr is not passing emissions.



as for a rotary mechanic, on rx7.org theres a site for a shop called mazda masters in sunnyvale which is only 20 mins away from where i live. Are these guys good?



I see some rx7 n/a's for sale at around 5000 some all the way up at 7000 with 80000+ miles. Is that the price range im going to be looking at or can i get a better deal. i see some people on th is site that are selling theres for around 2000. there was a tII in sac town for 2500 with a new motor.



-Pete-

Infini IV 06-30-2002 09:03 PM

You can find better deals if you look hard enough. I got mine for $1500 not running. Got a motor for $1000 and now it's pretty good.



Pics of my car:

http://www.ranchoweb.com/folder/3814

vosko 06-30-2002 09:08 PM

a complete sr is $2000-$3000 then exhaust, boost controller, etc etc. it all adds up. i have two friends with 240sx's and sr20det's they are very fast and very fun but my friends spent alot of time and money

XpLicit Fc3s 06-30-2002 10:49 PM

a complete sr is $2000-$3000 then exhaust, boost controller, etc etc. it all adds up.



True... i do see what your saying but it would be making more hp if i added exhaust, boost controller, etc etc. It would also be the same as me buying a turbo II and adding exhaust, boost controller, etc etc.



But i think im gonna stick with and Fc3s i like the looks and it also has a lot of potential.



How hard is it to buy a N/A and then swapping a tII into it or would that be a waste of time. How much would it cost ? I think my insurance would be cheaper if i did that. Or should i just wait for a T II to show up.

1Revvin7 06-30-2002 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by XpLicit Fc3s' date='Jul 1 2002, 12:49 AM
a complete sr is $2000-$3000 then exhaust, boost controller, etc etc. it all adds up.



True... i do see what your saying but it would be making more hp if i added exhaust, boost controller, etc etc. It would also be the same as me buying a turbo II and adding exhaust, boost controller, etc etc.



But i think im gonna stick with and Fc3s i like the looks and it also has a lot of potential.



How hard is it to buy a N/A and then swapping a tII into it or would that be a waste of time. How much would it cost ? I think my insurance would be cheaper if i did that. Or should i just wait for a T II to show up.

Just wait for the TII

RX7ryder 07-01-2002 12:22 AM

Turbo 2, DUH?

Rotaryman88 07-01-2002 11:01 AM

Well, I did the NA to GTX(jspec T2) swap and lets just its more work then I'd suggest. I only did it because I was partial to my NAs body and I didn't want to get rid of my car. However, if your thinking of the s13 vs FC3S...well, hands down the FC3S. After adding all the goodies like exhaust, big turbo, boost controller, etc to the S13...your only looking at around 250 to 300 at the wheels...which is really as much as you can put out on the stock block...an FC3S can get around the same 275 to 310 RWHP with much of the same mods, BUT your looking at way more weight and not as good of handling. If you can, find a '89 to '91 TurboII...that'll be your best bet...if you don't care as much for cosmetics, get an older '87 to '88 TurboII. Don't do the NA to Turbo conversion...its not really something a rotary newbie wants to attempt....

Rob x-7 07-01-2002 01:16 PM

If you dont have full coverage insurance, it doesnt matter what you drive its the same.

XpLicit Fc3s 07-01-2002 03:41 PM

Sick... Im going to be an owner of a rx7 then.



If i can get a n/a for cheap should i take it or wait for a tII

say like 1000 and less? <_<

Infini IV 07-01-2002 03:49 PM

Hmm, you're not gonna get very far with only $1000!

Rotaryman88 07-01-2002 03:50 PM

For $1000 you get what you pay for. If your looking for speed, just wait for a T2...you can pick up an '87 to '88 T2 for about $2500 that runs good but looks bad(needing paint, etc)...

XpLicit Fc3s 07-01-2002 11:12 PM

infini.....your car is clean looking... how much have u spent on it so far? https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Infini IV 07-01-2002 11:32 PM

Thx man. I've spent about $3500. I think the most expensive Thing I got was the exhaust. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

SoniX 07-02-2002 06:19 AM

a friend of mine was considering this exact thing, so i took him for a ride in my 90 GTU, down a winding road. He is looking for an FC now https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png and I am looking for a turbo, so I can convert people in a straight line as well.


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