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Tomoya 07-21-2006 03:19 AM

Any of you have used EBC greenstuff break pads? Im planning to get a set for my 88 TT.



And also do they have slotted rotors from them? My local RX-7 Shop (they speciallize in RX-7 Rx-8 and Miatas) recommended those combinations.



Everywhere I look on the web, they only have one type of Greenstuff. I think the 2000 model. The guy at the shop told me the 6000 model would suit my needs better.



Any input would be appreciated.

Midnightdriver 07-21-2006 09:51 AM

I'd say that if you just want to upgrade your rotors get the power slot with the EBC green pads, also go with some steel braded brake lines..that should give you what you want.

neil 07-21-2006 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by FC RotorHead' post='829400' date='Jul 21 2006, 01:19 AM

Any of you have used EBC greenstuff break pads? Im planning to get a set for my 88 TT.



And also do they have slotted rotors from them? My local RX-7 Shop (they speciallize in RX-7 Rx-8 and Miatas) recommended those combinations.



Everywhere I look on the web, they only have one type of Greenstuff. I think the 2000 model. The guy at the shop told me the 6000 model would suit my needs better.



Any input would be appreciated.



We have EBC in stock as well. The green Pads are great for "spirited" street and occasional weekend warriors ie mild Autocross. If Pushing road courses like time trials or SCCA etc... look at the Yellows. Still useable for the street but more able to take track thrashing. All of their pads work best with their slotted and dimpled roters. (nice, not drilled thru, so no cracking!) Unfortunatly for my track car I have to run stock rotors in my class. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

If you must run them on stock rotors pay ATTENTION to the break in procedure! Be sure the rotors are turned or you will have squeking noises that can raise the hair on your neck! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png During breakin expect some noise but if you prepped everything right it will go away in about 500 miles, I know this from experience in my Vert.

Absolutly agree that Steel brakes lines are worth the effort!



Neil pinnaclemazda.com

fc3s4utnv 07-21-2006 05:16 PM

From exprience I would rather have hawk HPS, all around a better pad.

Tomoya 07-22-2006 01:43 AM

Thanks for the input guys!



About the dimpled rotors.. do they come in slotted + dimpled? or... slotted or dimpled. I know crossdrilled "through" is really bad on rotors, due to a higher chance of warping and cracking. So im gonna stay away from those.

But would dimpled have any advantage? or just looks... all I can think of is gas being released quicker from the dimples which means better cooling, but the slots will do the job just fine IMO.



I was looking at powerslots with Hawks set up as well. The powerslots are cryo treated. (frozen and then heated to form a more solid steel)

Are the EBCs rotors cryo treated? Or just powder coated?



Thanks.

neil 07-22-2006 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by FC RotorHead' post='829589' date='Jul 21 2006, 11:43 PM

Thanks for the input guys!



About the dimpled rotors.. do they come in slotted + dimpled? or... slotted or dimpled. I know crossdrilled "through" is really bad on rotors, due to a higher chance of warping and cracking. So im gonna stay away from those.

But would dimpled have any advantage? or just looks... all I can think of is gas being released quicker from the dimples which means better cooling, but the slots will do the job just fine IMO.



I was looking at powerslots with Hawks set up as well. The powerslots are cryo treated. (frozen and then heated to form a more solid steel)

Are the EBCs rotors cryo treated? Or just powder coated?



Thanks.



The dimpled roters are slotted as well. The dimples "help break down the surface gases as the slots expel dirt, dust and gas." The import rotors are gold zinc coated to prevent corrosion in areas not swept by the pads. Something I plan to put on my RX8 someday as the stock ones rust and look hideous, and for the price and hassle of getting them coated I can add the plated and slotted/dimpled rotors. Only drawback is if you don't like that color.



From what I am told, the Hawks have a nice aggresive bite, once warmed up but may be questionable for street use. The EBC pads now offered are different compounds than even just a couple years ago, so folks may be suprised. Some of the viper racers like them for the fast bite (w/o having to be heated up) and better brake feel. It does take a little more pedal pressure, but some like that feel and control when trying to brake later and not lock up as you start the turn in.



We have a well known (and very consistant winner) Local SPEC Miata racer who uses some very sophisticated Data aquisition equipment. We will be getting some real data comparisons between the Hawks and the Yellow track pads. So far the sessions he was going to compare in had alot of rain so was not good consistant data, yet. We hope to have some after next weekend in Bremerton. He did say it took more leg but did allow a better modulated feel. I really want to compare the hard numbers tho to see.



Ok that was alot more than 2 cents worth, but to each his/her own. I plan to put the yellows on my GTUs, have green on the Vert, and will put rotors and greens on the 8, in the future.



Neil

Tomoya 07-23-2006 05:11 AM

thanks for the help!



So what colour does the rotors come in? I want to get the slotted dimpled. and EBC green stuff.



I hear theres a 2000 series and a 6000 series for the greenstuff.

whats the difference and what will best suit my needs if im doing A LOT of spirited driving on the streets??



No tracks yet though.

neil 07-24-2006 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by FC RotorHead' post='829731' date='Jul 23 2006, 03:11 AM

thanks for the help!



So what colour does the rotors come in? I want to get the slotted dimpled. and EBC green stuff.



I hear theres a 2000 series and a 6000 series for the greenstuff.

whats the difference and what will best suit my needs if im doing A LOT of spirited driving on the streets??



No tracks yet though.



The Zinc plated is sort of a gold with perhaps a yellow/greenish hue.

Not sure if I am supposed to be posting prices here, don't want to step on anyone's toes... Email me for a quote. The greens for Mazdas are in the "2000" series and quite adequeate for even maniacal street driving! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/ohmy.png

I happen to be waiting for my restock so I am a week or so from having them back on the shelf along with the rotors, rears are in stock.



neil

nbryant@pinnaclemazda.com

Tomoya 07-25-2006 12:36 AM

Neil I have sent you an Email.



Thanks.

Tomoya 08-07-2006 03:59 AM

Hey guys, its been a while.



Im still stuck on rear rotors for my TII.

I found out that EBC doesn't have rear rotors for the FC's, but I was wondering for (heavily) spirited street use, do you even need to upgrade the rear rotors/pads? Or would OEM or some brembo blanks do just fine?



I would rather match the fronts and the rears with the same setup, but unfortunately EBC's cannot offer me that luxury... (at least for the rears)

So My question is, would mixing EBC rotors, (front) with a Powerslot cryo (rear) be a bad combo? Or should I just go with both powerslots? with EBC pads?

Thanks


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