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Rob x-7 12-30-2002 05:49 PM

well I got around to putting some epoxy primer on the car today, Thursday I will block the car down by hand, then take all the masking off and wash the car again before I re-mask it for paint. Should have it painted by Saturday then I will wet sand and buff it Monday.

mazda_rx1986 12-30-2002 05:52 PM

lookin good https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png :yum:

phinsup 12-30-2002 05:52 PM

Damn now I wish you would just move to Seattle and paint my car for me https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

vosko 12-30-2002 05:54 PM

looks good so far! when i hit the lotto i'll let you paint my cars https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

Rob x-7 12-30-2002 06:16 PM

thanks people

Thats good primer right there, if we can use it under water for boats, its

really good for a car!

I like to sand my primers after to get a good flat surface, there are "wet-on-wet"

primers and no sand primers but the job wont come out as good and have that extra depth when its done, or the protective qualities.

Rob x-7 12-30-2002 06:17 PM

eh, another shot

Im definitly putting that bitch up on blocks when it comes time for paint, im getting too old to be crawling around on my knees, lol

Fastrotaries 12-30-2002 08:12 PM

what primer and paint do you recommend. i really need mine done. How much would you charge for a TII? I have family in Jersey and go up there from time to time.

j9fd3s 12-31-2002 11:09 AM

i might be shipping you a car rob.....



mike

vosko 12-31-2002 11:26 AM

i have seen rob's convertible in person the other one ( you painted that one right ?) it looks amazing..... if i had the $$$ i would of had rob paint my FD but i didn't :(

bigtime 12-31-2002 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Dec 31 2002, 12:26 PM
i have seen rob's convertible in person the other one ( you painted that one right ?) it looks amazing..... if i had the $$$ i would of had rob paint my FD but i didn't :(

me too.... the shine temporarily blinded me

MAZDAROTARYPOWER 12-31-2002 12:00 PM

goodshit rob! from me working in a bodyshop before i commend you for going the extra mile!

Rob x-7 12-31-2002 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Dec 31 2002, 12:26 PM
i have seen rob's convertible in person the other one ( you painted that one right ?) it looks amazing..... if i had the $$$ i would of had rob paint my FD but i didn't :(

That paint job is 4 years old this Christmas, I painted it myself and it sits outside all the time, no garage. Thanks for all the good words people, coming from a guy with a vert I have my work cut out for me when it comes time to show up the FDs and the TIIs, lol.



As for prices, again I have been keeping track of my hours to figure out a fair price if anyone wants thier car painted. I dont want to run a factory and dont look at this as a means to make a living, only because I enjoy doing it, when it comes time I dont enjoy doing it there is a problem, lol.



Fastrotories- I use all brand name top of the line products, from 3M abrasives to DuPont paints/primers, US Paint/AwlGrip primers, AwlGrip is rarely used for autos, its a military/aeronautical/marine product line that has been around for a long time.

Most body shops tend to go fast/high production which can sacrafice the job in the long run, NOTHING I use is high-production and nothing is easy, but in the end you get what you pay for or what you put into a job, go cheap and fast and it shows.

j9fd3s 12-31-2002 01:39 PM

yah around here we can always tell if a car has been painted, usually from 10 feet away, and thats even if you take it to the expensive ($5k+) places



mike

Cheers! 12-31-2002 03:10 PM

damn... want to paint my car... too bad i live in toronto.



got a quetsion for u though... everyone i talk to is always concerned about overspray into the wheel wells... do u mask off the wheel wells?

Rob x-7 12-31-2002 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Cheers!' date='Dec 31 2002, 04:10 PM
damn... want to paint my car... too bad i live in toronto.



got a quetsion for u though... everyone i talk to is always concerned about overspray into the wheel wells... do u mask off the wheel wells?

I usually do mask the wheel wells, in this case I didnt because :



#1- I only put 2 light coats on the wheel well lips

#2-nothing will really stick in the wheel wells anyhow

#3-some pressure washing and a few passes of some flat black spray paint goes into the wheel wells after anyhow.



Its hard to keep paper stuck to the inside of the wheel well to be able to paint the wheel well lips, the masking paper can sometimes end up blowing off and into the paint when the pressure of the paint gun passes, so I would rather clean a small amount of overspray off then have paper blow into my paint. They do sell overspray protection spray that is water soluable which I can spray into the wheel wells, undercarriage and engine compartment.

Fastrotaries 01-01-2003 01:39 AM

So does the quality of the primer really make a difference?

Apex13B 01-01-2003 03:55 AM

im happy i live only 20 min. from rob...i cant wait to drop off my car :yum: https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683894.gif

75 Repu 01-01-2003 04:28 AM

Damn, Rob is the Man... I wanna paint my truck next year... oops I mean this Year.. I actually want to paint both of them.. I am doing the body work on my B2600i and will begin on the Repu once I get it started..... Are PPG and Dupont products good? How bout for Primer?

Rob x-7 01-01-2003 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Fastrotaries' date='Jan 1 2003, 02:39 AM
So does the quality of the primer really make a difference?

The primer absolutely 100% makes a difference.



I prefer either US Paint AwlGrip 545grey epoxy primer, or DuPont URO Prime

Nice thing about the AwlGrip primer is its self etching on bare metal, and is military spec for anti-corrosion. URO prime you have to use VariPrime on the bare metal first.



After using some PPG I can say thier older Deltron was good ****, I dont like any of thier BC/CC after I tried thier BC on my Lexus this summer. I can honestly say I prefer the DuPont Chromasystem over PPG BC/CC. I always used Chrombase but my friend with a body shop talked me into using his PPG Global and I tried it, HATED it. Alot of people use the PPG and thats what they may prefer I guess. I ended up using Chroma Premier clear with the PPG base and after wish I had gone with my instinct and used Chromabase. The Chroma Premier clear coat was nice ****, considered the top of the line clear for DuPont, my cost was about $200 or so for the clear, and I buy a little over cost.

TKO 01-02-2003 02:14 AM

Jebus...

Looks hella good...

Cheers! 01-02-2003 02:24 AM

Rob rx-7,



can i ask you some more quesitons about body work? i've never done body work before, and after getting my seven i have repaired several very small bubbling of paint due to bad seals around the windshelid and water collecting in these areas.



My next body shop problem is to taken some minor rust on the A-pillar of the car, after opening the door i see a bit of rust about the size of a silver dollar, and it is just bubbling hte paint away. My plan is to take my dremel out and grind the area so i see metal again.



But my concern is how to paint this area i have just grinded away. In the past i used to ahve a automotive paint supply store mix me matching paint and put it into a spray can.



When i went about to somehow mask away the interior of the car ie open door and want to paint door sills, i can't quite get it working right... the stupid masking keeps falling off.



How do the pros paint hte door jams and inside of door.



I'm also tempted to spray the paint into a cup and take out a paint brush and paint it that way

Rob x-7 01-02-2003 09:39 AM

You basically mask the jambs anyway you can. Of course you clean the entire area with a Prep-Sol like solvent, which is used to clean any wax and other impurities. Around the house you can try some alcohol if you want to keep costs down. Use good quality masking tape and tape it to as many things as you can. I would reccomend you paint a entire area of the door jamb versus keeping it small and put some of that anti-rust stuff that Eastwood sells on thier first. You can even ask them give you the paint in a can versus a spray can so you dont have to spray it out to brush it.



I have one area of the door jamb I have to paint because there was a small ding in the bottom of the door right where you get in, maybe the womans high heel shoe did it, I dont even know how one would get a ding inside the door panel, its too low for the seatbelt to have done it. Ill take some pics, I should be doing that today or tomoroww because I plan on painting the car either Friday or Saturday and need the jamb done first.

ChainSawOnSteroids 01-02-2003 07:41 PM

good work rob, looks good, ( i manage a body shop ) so i know my ****, i give you props on it! plus quality product always makes the difference :bigok:


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