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n2audio77 05-25-2002 02:33 PM

okay i know that my injectors are leaking so i have ordered the bleed off kit from mazdatrix and got it yesterday after i was driving down the highway and stopped for a light when the engine just died!!!!! :-(

i pulled off to the side of the road and tried several times to start the engine again----with no luck.

ive never had it just die on me before with the exception of when it overheated on me. anyway i tried to unflood the motor by pulling the fuel pump fuse and turning it over- when that didnt work i pulled the plugs and found that the number one rotor housing had the dripping wet plugs. so i dried them all and tried to start again---still no luck. so now i wonder about the plugs. what should i look for in tring to tell if they have gone bad? also, when i went back to try agian today when i pulled the plugs and turned over the engine to clear the fuel out i saw a milky while liquid come from the motor----it smells like fuel . now could this be the atf and fuel mixing ? ( i used atf to relube the housings when i pulled the plugs to blow out the excess fuel yesterday) once again the engine tries to start but just cant. so please give me your best guesses :unsure:

Infini IV 05-25-2002 04:12 PM

You overheated it?

n2audio77 05-25-2002 04:24 PM

yeah the factory plastic piece that the water filling cap ( rad. cap ) cracked and was leaking coolant while i was driving ---didnt know till it was hot

but have had the engine running since then and was running fine

13BAce 05-25-2002 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by n2audio77' date='May 25 2002, 04:33 PM
okay i know that my injectors are leaking so i have ordered the bleed off kit from mazdatrix and got it yesterday after i was driving down the highway and stopped for a light when the engine just died!!!!! :-(

i pulled off to the side of the road and tried several times to start the engine again----with no luck.

ive never had it just die on me before with the exception of when it overheated on me. anyway i tried to unflood the motor by pulling the fuel pump fuse and turning it over- when that didnt work i pulled the plugs and found that the number one rotor housing had the dripping wet plugs. so i dried them all and tried to start again---still no luck. so now i wonder about the plugs. what should i look for in tring to tell if they have gone bad? also, when i went back to try agian today when i pulled the plugs and turned over the engine to clear the fuel out i saw a milky while liquid come from the motor----it smells like fuel . now could this be the atf and fuel mixing ? ( i used atf to relube the housings when i pulled the plugs to blow out the excess fuel yesterday) once again the engine tries to start but just cant. so please give me your best guesses :unsure:

That milky white stuff could be coolant and oil mixing together. What do your plugs smell like when they're all wet?

n2audio77 05-25-2002 07:47 PM

it smells just like fuel

even with the bleed off kit it still seems like the engine is flooding :-(

maybe i have an injector that is stuck open---ill have to look further into that

as far as coolant mixing with oil goes i know that oil is supposed to be injected into the rotor housings to lube the rotors but if i have coolant in the housings as well would that point to a blown gasket or seal?

13BAce 05-25-2002 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by n2audio77' date='May 25 2002, 09:47 PM
it smells just like fuel

even with the bleed off kit it still seems like the engine is flooding :-(

maybe i have an injector that is stuck open---ill have to look further into that

as far as coolant mixing with oil goes i know that oil is supposed to be injected into the rotor housings to lube the rotors but if i have coolant in the housings as well would that point to a blown gasket or seal?

Yeah, coolant in the combustion chamber would mean a bad seal.

n2audio77 05-25-2002 08:10 PM

f**k

13BAce 05-25-2002 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by n2audio77' date='May 25 2002, 10:10 PM
f**k

Just do all of the usual checks. You may get lucky.

n2audio77 05-26-2002 07:58 AM

any advice on where to start first?

compression check to start with perhaps?

13BAce 05-26-2002 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by n2audio77' date='May 26 2002, 09:58 AM
any advice on where to start first?

compression check to start with perhaps?

Yeah, that and try checking your coolant and oil to see what they look like.


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