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threcixty 10-09-2008 02:30 AM

Hey all, after 4 years of keeping my promise to myself, I bought a 89 GXL with 51000 miles... Couldn't pass it up. The only mods I have done are a cold air intake, and a custom exhaust including a homemade presilencer with carbon fiber roving for packing (works better then steel wool.), a magnaflow behind that, and an old dynomax catback I had laying around from a previous car. Anywho, as with my previous 6 rx's, this one was drony as hell right at 3200-3400 rpm. Figures, as I wanted a highway car, and that means right at 75. Just for shits and giggles, I put some heavy weave fiberglass inside of the well where the spare tire sits, and sprayed a crapton of 3m "rubberized undercoating" all over the inside of the well. I also sprayed the outside on the bottom of the well, and up in front of the rear bumper. All in all, used the better half of 2 cans of the stuff, or about 1.5 pounds. Took her for a drive tonight, and 3200 rpm is the same as 2800 or 4000! No more resonation! FWIW, I know I was hating it and maybe it will help someone.



Good to be back!

Jim

j9fd3s 10-09-2008 10:49 AM

yeah 3200rpm is loud....



so you insulated the spare tire well and that fixed it? does that mean its like the resonant frequency of the car or something?

threcixty 10-09-2008 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='909587' date='Oct 9 2008, 07:49 AM
yeah 3200rpm is loud....



so you insulated the spare tire well and that fixed it? does that mean its like the resonant frequency of the car or something?



Thats what I was thinking anyway. If you look at the metal around the spare tire, it is quite thin, and if you tap on it, it sounds like a drum. I was insulating it so that I could try an active noise reduction idea I had, but decided to load it up with undercoating and see if it made a difference. Makes sense as that piece of metal is the same size on all of our cars, and from all of the searches I did, they all resonate around 3k, so yea.. It just makes the car sound as loud as it does at 2800 and 3500. It made the loud spot dissappear, and I can actually hear my stereo now.

Jim

defprun 10-09-2008 11:04 PM

Another way if you wanted to re-inforce the area you can use 3-4 layers of fiberglass matting in that area to stiffen it up..since seam welding in there is impossible - apparently.

j9fd3s 10-10-2008 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by threcixty' post='909602' date='Oct 9 2008, 01:12 PM
Thats what I was thinking anyway. If you look at the metal around the spare tire, it is quite thin, and if you tap on it, it sounds like a drum. I was insulating it so that I could try an active noise reduction idea I had, but decided to load it up with undercoating and see if it made a difference. Makes sense as that piece of metal is the same size on all of our cars, and from all of the searches I did, they all resonate around 3k, so yea.. It just makes the car sound as loud as it does at 2800 and 3500. It made the loud spot dissappear, and I can actually hear my stereo now.

Jim



yeah the drum thing totally makes sense. this little trick will be in the next car, thanks!

Nateb123 10-10-2008 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='909669' date='Oct 10 2008, 09:38 AM
yeah the drum thing totally makes sense. this little trick will be in the next car, thanks!





Just about to go do this in my new rx-7. I was wondering why it was so screaming loud at 3k (thought maybe there was a rusted through section of the exhaust but it all looked fine). Thanks for the tip!

threcixty 10-10-2008 03:23 PM

I was wondering about using a little "memory foam" or something like that to put under the carpet on the back panel, as to make it a little quieter also. Does memory foam like you can find for mattreses work for sound deadening??

Jim


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