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teknics 02-11-2004 08:16 PM

ok i was driving spirited and all of a sudden a plume of smoke took hold of my car, knew it was coolant right away, first thought was coolant seals.



stopped noticed smoke only from bay, figured since i replaced the hole left side it had to be the right side.



sure enough heater hose (form under filter to the cabin) exploded.



any ideas as to why my coolant system is so pressurized or could it just be due to 14 year old hoses?



ive replaced the thermostat and gasket, fixed leaky thermostat housing, replaced turbo coolant hose, and radiaor hoses, replaced radiator with fluidyne, everything.



would a bad rad cap cause this?



kevin.

ColinRX7 02-11-2004 08:19 PM

14 year old hoses don't help..



But yeah a bad rad cap wouldn't let excess pressure spill into the overflow.. What pressure is the rad cap you have?

1Revvin7 02-11-2004 08:26 PM

I've seen it happen on several Rx-7s. I believe its just old hoses. Everyone should replace all hoses as soon as possible.

mazdadrifter 02-11-2004 08:27 PM

i think the stock cap is 12 psi, double check and make sure you cap is the same and that the diaphram hasen't rotten off.



you can get a pressurization kit from like sears or something for not too expensive, and try to manually pressurize the system to see if the cap is working properly.



or you can take it to a local mechanic who will check it for you.

teknics 02-11-2004 08:41 PM

i got a fluidyne rad and cap, its 1.1bar IIRC so about 15psi +/-1psi.



ill test my cap at the shop tomorrow hopefully its just old hoses.



thats like the ONLY hose i didnt replace cause it looked fine.



kevin.

1988RedT2 02-12-2004 02:39 PM

Fourteen year old rubber on a car with the underhood temps of a T2? Hmmm.



I predict you will have only as many more problems as you have 14-year old hoses under the hood. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Sounds like you are good to go!

turborotor 02-12-2004 04:09 PM

I replace that hose every 2 to 3 years no matter what! I also keep en extra one in standby in my storage bin.



I also replace all the hoses every 3 years or when they start/feeling weird.



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mazdaspeed7 02-12-2004 04:58 PM

Check the line goign to the overflow bottle, the cap in the overflow bottle, and the nipple on the radiator for the overflow bottle for blockage. I had a problem with that before.

teknics 02-12-2004 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed7' date='Feb 12 2004, 05:58 PM
Check the line goign to the overflow bottle, the cap in the overflow bottle, and the nipple on the radiator for the overflow bottle for blockage. I had a problem with that before.

yea that whole thing is unclogged, it was my problem when i ran 100% water and **** froze in the rubber line, but i fixed that and am running a proper 50/50 mix now.



everything SEEMS to be fully functional now, im going to run it hard again tonight and check the coolant levels again hopefully itll be all good.



kevin.

ColinRX7 02-12-2004 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 12 2004, 04:08 PM
yea that whole thing is unclogged, it was my problem when i ran 100% water and **** froze in the rubber line, but i fixed that and am running a proper 50/50 mix now.



kevin.

I ran a 75 water and 25 coolant mix (oh and a bottle of water wetter) in my rx7 for the summer.. I dropped the coolant out of the car and it's sitting in a jug in my garage.. Hasn't froze..



Cooling is more efficient with more water, no? I was curious to see if my mix would have frozen in the Canadian winter but I guess it didnt..

ECKO1980 02-12-2004 07:13 PM

Not too long ago I down shifted to 3rd doing 60 to rap it out and grenaded that same heater hose.......i think its just old hoses, since i put a new one in i havent had any problems.

teknics 02-12-2004 08:19 PM

yea after driving two days im completely leak free in the coolant department...........woooooooooo



first time ever.



now once i replace that leaky PD ill be 100% leak free, woot.



kevin.

BrandonDrecksage 02-12-2004 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Feb 12 2004, 05:09 PM
I ran a 75 water and 25 coolant mix (oh and a bottle of water wetter) in my rx7 for the summer.. I dropped the coolant out of the car and it's sitting in a jug in my garage.. Hasn't froze..



Cooling is more efficient with more water, no? I was curious to see if my mix would have frozen in the Canadian winter but I guess it didnt..

nope...water is the beest for heat transfer

j9fd3s 02-12-2004 08:32 PM

yeah that line under the filter doesnt last because it gets oil spilled on it

teknics 02-12-2004 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Feb 12 2004, 09:32 PM
yeah that line under the filter doesnt last because it gets oil spilled on it

that was my theory too, i guess i didnt post it here, but that was my analysis.



kevin.

ColinRX7 02-12-2004 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by BrandonDrecksage' date='Feb 12 2004, 06:29 PM
nope...water is the beest for heat transfer

so higher water ratio = good?

FrestyleFC3S 02-12-2004 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by ColinRX7' date='Feb 13 2004, 12:40 AM
so higher water ratio = good?

yeah....but watch out when its cold thats all





during the summer i use 100% water and water wetter

ColinRX7 02-12-2004 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by FrestyleFC3S' date='Feb 12 2004, 08:43 PM
yeah....but watch out when its cold thats all





during the summer i use 100% water and water wetter

Yeah that's what I was thinking too.. I was under the impression you needed a little bit of coolant to keep the aluminum from corroding? That's why I ran 25/75 for the summer..

BigTurbo74 02-12-2004 10:54 PM

some people use that evans coolant to prevent corroding all together, yes don't even bother if it gets cold enough where you live, the stock cooling system when working correctly is probably well within any abuse you can give it.

teknics 02-12-2004 11:19 PM

i dont trust 100% water, honestly.



kevin./

ColinRX7 02-13-2004 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 12 2004, 09:19 PM
i dont trust 100% water, honestly.



kevin./

in summer? why?

Terrh 02-13-2004 08:48 PM

I wouldn't use 100% water..



I have a TII waterpump that sat in a leaky shed and after two months there was so much rust on it you could hardly tell where the fins were! I can show it to ya if you want, colin https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

teknics 02-13-2004 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Terrh' date='Feb 13 2004, 09:48 PM
I wouldn't use 100% water..



I have a TII waterpump that sat in a leaky shed and after two months there was so much rust on it you could hardly tell where the fins were! I can show it to ya if you want, colin https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

that is my main concern with the 100% water thing, rust after sitting. my car goes through extended down periods and im not about to flush and fill my coolant system that often.



kevin.

turborotor 02-13-2004 08:58 PM

Use distilled water when mixing in the coolant. Regular water has minerals that adds to the corrosion. Having a little coolants helps lubricate the water pump.

ColinRX7 02-13-2004 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Feb 13 2004, 06:52 PM
that is my main concern with the 100% water thing, rust after sitting. my car goes through extended down periods and im not about to flush and fill my coolant system that often.



kevin.

Thats why I thought you should always run a small amount of coolant at least.. best of both worlds?

CrassFC3S 02-13-2004 11:38 PM

******* rad. caps are a bitch they dont let out that stupid pressure and bada boom blowin hoses... replace all your coolant hoses that are 14 years old haha that shouldnt even be questioned


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