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pepperhead 06-21-2006 09:07 AM

i've been lookinf into coilovers and need some help. hks are expensive. tein are reasonable. is it worth the price difference? i've also heard of people who don't like them. so if i don't go with coilovers, what shox and springs would recomend? money is not that much of a problem. thanx. fist poll posted so hopefully it's right.

Midnightdriver 06-21-2006 09:41 AM

I voted for the tein's. Now I voted that because they are a solid coilover that will allow you to hit the track and also have a pretty smooth ride on the street. The Flex are a good compromise between a race coilover and a good road one.

fc3sboy1 06-21-2006 12:44 PM

i put a vote for JIC Majic FLT-A2 coil overs, i have had them for a while now and are fantastic for the track and street.

pepperhead 06-21-2006 06:45 PM

thanks so far. ive also been lookin at the ksport.

Cheers! 06-21-2006 06:58 PM

I vote for revlaved Koni yellows in Ground control strut tubes, ground control tubes, with 2.5" springs, 400 front, 275 lbs rear.



But that option isn't available

CKDezines 06-25-2006 11:46 PM

Coilovers arent great for a mainly street driven car IMO. I have driven a couple different rides and if you are building a track car then ya, coilovers are the way to go, but if you want a comfortable street car springs and shocks every time.

GreyGT-C 06-25-2006 11:59 PM

i vote for the same option as Cheers did. I run GC's with eibach springs over koni yellows on my monster.

pepperhead 06-26-2006 09:51 AM

thanks guys. the car is not my daily driver and i want to put on the best performance suspension(with out getting out of control).should be pushin close to 300 to the wheels when my car gets back in a couple days. how will the car ride different with coilovers opposed to whith that setup ^.thanx again.

GreyGT-C 06-26-2006 01:31 PM

High dollar coils overs are WAY overrated IMO. Most people don;t have the equipment or the know how to adjust CO's for anything but ride height anyway.



btw, my car is track only with estimated 600 rwhp weighing 2200lbs.

Cheers! 06-28-2006 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by pepperhead' post='826137' date='Jun 26 2006, 10:51 AM

thanks guys. the car is not my daily driver and i want to put on the best performance suspension(with out getting out of control).should be pushin close to 300 to the wheels when my car gets back in a couple days. how will the car ride different with coilovers opposed to whith that setup ^.thanx again.



When the first thing I would look for in a coilover is how well the dampener is designed. Will the dampener fade after a couple laps? Remember the dampener/shock has oil inside that gets pushed in and out valves it heats up. Eventualy it will fade in the same sense brakes fade on the track when they are too hot. When a dampener fades it will no longer be able to dampen it.



THe next thing you look for is the coilover's dampener ability to control rebound dampening. Hard to figure out unless you can see shock dyno graphs. Partly why I believe in the ground control setup, they have been supplying rx7s since the IMSA days, so they have the rebound dampening rates somewhat figured out. Those new taiwanese or phillipean coilovers guys probably don't know, or have any experience racing rx7s on track.



Rebound dampening controls the car's dynamic response (ie handling) compressiong dampening only really controls ride comfort. To design a dampener that has lots of rebound dampening is difficult to do.



I vote for Koni Yellows revlaved by ground control mounted in ground control strut tubes, ground control sleeves, and ebiach 2.5" springs. They also have a rear pillowball mount. If i were to redo it I would go with that setup. I decided to save 400 bucks and went with ISCracing's bilstein setup. Sucks. Build quality is low and htere isn't enough rebound dampening. It works ok though. But the groudn control setup is overall better.



If you feel that ground control still isn't good enough, you can go with:

Penske

Ohlins

Multimatic

Or perhaps you can talk to Bilstein into revalving a set of their "HD" rx7 dampeners for race purposes, but you loose the adjustability option.



Further coilovers that claim they have 30 or 40 clicks of adjustbility are BS. Since when are you going to be able to tell the difference between the 24th and 25th click? The only way you could if you were datalogging the suspension to see the wheel rates. Even then I'm willing to bet those low end japanese/taiwanese/phillipino coilovers won't show any difference in the graph/trace between the 24th and 25th click.



that is my opinion.


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