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RotaryManRX7 07-16-2002 08:01 PM

Does anyone have one of these clutchs? Are they more a race clutch then they are a street/strip clutch? I read that they have 90% more holding force then the stock unit is that right? If someone has one how is the clutch feel at the pedal? Sorry for all of the questions.



Thanks

phinsup 07-16-2002 08:09 PM

It depends on the model, the Centerforce 3 has 90% or something like that, The Centerforce 1 is close to stock and the Centerforce 2 is the street strip version. I would guess that the Centerforce 3 is not very streetable....

Rotaryman88 07-16-2002 09:12 PM

I'm using the Centerforce DF clutch...it supposedly holds 500HP...so i'm sure thats 90% more then stock, lol. The clutch feel is GREAT...way better then the stock NA one I had. As far as how well it holds up, I haven't had a chance to test it on my seven, but my buddy has the same clutch on his '94 cobra mustang w/ 325HP and he drives HARD...the clutch does NOT slip...I was very impressed.

RotaryManRX7 07-16-2002 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by Rotaryman88' date='Jul 16 2002, 09:12 PM
I'm using the Centerforce DF clutch...it supposedly holds 500HP...so i'm sure thats 90% more then stock, lol. The clutch feel is GREAT...way better then the stock NA one I had. As far as how well it holds up, I haven't had a chance to test it on my seven, but my buddy has the same clutch on his '94 cobra mustang w/ 325HP and he drives HARD...the clutch does NOT slip...I was very impressed.

I guess you used yours on the street then? Was the clutch pedal really heavy? Is it like a pluck clutch were it is either in or out? Do you think the one they make for the NA motors is to much?



Thanks again.

Rotaryman88 07-16-2002 10:45 PM

Well, I only drove the car about 10 miles on one rotor...damn jspecs, lol. However, the DF clutches are fine for street use, its the triple plate ones ya gotta watch out for...they are really only race clutches. If you get the CenterforceII DF...you'll be fine. The clutch feel is great, not overly stiff, but gives good feel...

turborotor 07-16-2002 11:38 PM

After 3 CF cluctches I've learned my lesson don't get one again. Even the Dual Friction I was not impressed, they clutch disc worns out too quickly and burns basically after a few 10k the clutch starts to slip. They just can't take abuse.



I got ACT now, the clutch engagement is more positive, you know when it grabs. It's a real clutch, no gimicks. I have 15k still fine after hard dragging and a few track events dragging the clutch cuase I was learning the sports.



C

vosko 07-17-2002 09:06 AM

i LOVE ACT. i have no love for centerforce. for the same price you can get the ACT which is proven to last abuse https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png turborotor and i haven't had any problems. my clutch was actually used in my TII and its still going fine! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

13BAce 07-17-2002 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:06 PM
i LOVE ACT. i have no love for centerforce. for the same price you can get the ACT which is proven to last abuse https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png turborotor and i haven't had any problems. my clutch was actually used in my TII and its still going fine! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

vosko 07-17-2002 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 11:41 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:06 PM']i LOVE ACT. i have no love for centerforce. for the same price you can get the ACT which is proven to last abuse https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png turborotor and i haven't had any problems. my clutch was actually used in my TII and its still going fine! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

i still gotta show you how to do burnouts and donuts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif

13BAce 07-17-2002 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 01:42 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 11:41 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:06 PM']i LOVE ACT. i have no love for centerforce. for the same price you can get the ACT which is proven to last abuse https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png turborotor and i haven't had any problems. my clutch was actually used in my TII and its still going fine! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

i still gotta show you how to do burnouts and donuts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif[/quote]

I can figure it out. There's not much point in the 91 coupe.

turborotor 07-17-2002 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:41 PM
I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

So you are using a non act clutch disk with the act pressure plate? I want to get a 6 pluck disk but act doesn't have it sprung.



C

vosko 07-17-2002 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:04 PM
[quote name='vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 01:42 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 11:41 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:06 PM']i LOVE ACT. i have no love for centerforce. for the same price you can get the ACT which is proven to last abuse https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png turborotor and i haven't had any problems. my clutch was actually used in my TII and its still going fine! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

i still gotta show you how to do burnouts and donuts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif[/quote]

I can figure it out. There's not much point in the 91 coupe.[/quote]

my GTU did some nice burnouts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

vosko 07-17-2002 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Jul 17 2002, 02:15 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:41 PM']I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

So you are using a non act clutch disk with the act pressure plate? I want to get a 6 pluck disk but act doesn't have it sprung.



C[/quote]

racingbeat has a six puck sprung disk. its like $150

13BAce 07-17-2002 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Jul 17 2002, 04:15 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:41 PM']I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

So you are using a non act clutch disk with the act pressure plate? I want to get a 6 pluck disk but act doesn't have it sprung.



C[/quote]

I was doing that before my disk went bad. Now I'm using a Clutchnet cluth disk/pressure plate.

13BAce 07-17-2002 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Jul 17 2002, 04:15 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:41 PM']I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif

So you are using a non act clutch disk with the act pressure plate? I want to get a 6 pluck disk but act doesn't have it sprung.



C[/quote]

My friend has the ACT pressure plate with the Clutchnet disk. He likes it ALOT better than the unsprung ACT. It was about $150:

http://www.clutchnet.com

13BAce 07-17-2002 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 04:22 PM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:04 PM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 01:42 PM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 17 2002, 11:41 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jul 17 2002, 12:06 PM']i LOVE ACT. i have no love for centerforce. for the same price you can get the ACT which is proven to last abuse https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png turborotor and i haven't had any problems. my clutch was actually used in my TII and its still going fine! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

I've had the ACT street/strip disc on a few cars, and it always held up well. My Clutchnet 6 puck sprung disc only lasted for about 5-6000 miles, but that may have been my fault. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif[/quote]

i still gotta show you how to do burnouts and donuts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/BURNOUT.gif[/quote]

I can figure it out. There's not much point in the 91 coupe.[/quote]

my GTU did some nice burnouts https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png[/quote]

Yeah. In a few days the 91 will have the whole turbo drivetrain minus the motor. So when I'm ready I can just drop in a motor.

RotaryManRX7 07-17-2002 09:45 PM

Ok, if I get a ACT should I get a stock clutch disk with a ACT pressure plate or should I get the ACT clutch plate too? I saw on there site that with the street/strip pressure plate that with the stock clutch disk that it could hold 280ft-lbs of torque. I guess my question is will it burn up the stock clutch disk pretty fast?



Thanks

13BAce 07-17-2002 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by RotaryManRX7' date='Jul 18 2002, 12:45 AM
Ok, if I get a ACT should I get a stock clutch disk with a ACT pressure plate or should I get the ACT clutch plate too? I saw on there site that with the street/strip pressure plate that with the stock clutch disk that it could hold 280ft-lbs of torque. I guess my question is will it burn up the stock clutch disk pretty fast?



Thanks

Get the ACT street/strip disk.

vosko 07-18-2002 12:46 AM

6 puck https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

13BAce 07-18-2002 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 18 2002, 03:46 AM

The ACT street/strip will start to give out around 350 RWHP, according to what others I know have seen.

vosko 07-18-2002 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 18 2002, 08:16 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Jul 18 2002, 03:46 AM']6 puck https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

The ACT street/strip will start to give out around 350 RWHP, according to what others I know have seen.[/quote]

6 pucks are better than one https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

13BAce 07-18-2002 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by vosko' date='Jul 18 2002, 11:54 AM
[quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 18 2002, 08:16 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jul 18 2002, 03:46 AM']6 puck https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

The ACT street/strip will start to give out around 350 RWHP, according to what others I know have seen.[/quote]

6 pucks are better than one https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

Yeah, but he may not need that. It deoends on what he's doing with the car. A modified TII will do just fine with an organic disk.

vosko 07-18-2002 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by 13BAce' date='Jul 18 2002, 10:00 AM
[quote name='vosko' date='Jul 18 2002, 11:54 AM'][quote name='13BAce' date='Jul 18 2002, 08:16 AM'][quote name='vosko' date='Jul 18 2002, 03:46 AM']6 puck https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

The ACT street/strip will start to give out around 350 RWHP, according to what others I know have seen.[/quote]

6 pucks are better than one https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

Yeah, but he may not need that. It deoends on what he's doing with the car. A modified TII will do just fine with an organic disk.[/quote]

i like being able to chirp any gear any time :ph34r: the six puck is fine for me for daily driving. i don't know why people complain so much https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...>/rolleyes.gif


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