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Rob x-7 01-04-2003 03:52 PM

got around to painting the car today, now I can look forward to polishing it on monday

Rob x-7 01-04-2003 03:53 PM

another shot:

Rob x-7 01-04-2003 03:55 PM

following pics are of the moldings and tailights

Rob x-7 01-04-2003 03:56 PM

tailights, might be a bit hard to see but they look 10000% better then the way they looked from Mazda

Rob x-7 01-04-2003 03:57 PM

table-o-parts

bigtime 01-04-2003 04:11 PM

nice!

banzaitoyota 01-04-2003 07:45 PM

Very nice!

1Revvin7 01-04-2003 08:17 PM

wow. :bigthumg:

Joe Flo 01-04-2003 08:30 PM

Bling Bling :bigok:

Apex13B 01-04-2003 09:22 PM

:yum: :yum: in all seriousness...when can i drop off my car

vosko 01-05-2003 03:34 AM

yeah i've said it before when i hit the lotto. i'll let rob repaint my fd and put on a new jdm front end https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

pengaru 01-05-2003 04:19 AM

will you be wet sanding before polish?

Fastrotaries 01-05-2003 04:40 AM

what color was it originally? Very nice and when can "I" drop off my car. Seriously, how much will this be? I want to keep the white color, just a hint of pearl.

Rob x-7 01-05-2003 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by pengaru' date='Jan 5 2003, 05:19 AM
will you be wet sanding before polish?

It will all be wet sanded and polished, another step alot of shops dont want to bother with anymore. It adds about a days worth of work by the time I do it, wet sand, 2 different compounds, 2 machine glazes, and one finishing glaze by hand, all 3M Perfect-It III which is thier newest stuff, Ill take a pic of the gloss, maybe it will come out cool if I put a ruler against the paint or something to try to get a perspective.



After that with the paint I used all that will be needed is a wax every 6 months or so, it is VERY chip,chemical, and UV resistant. I can gurantee gloss for at least 10 years if you were to just leave it outside and just wash it, it will probably out last the car with normal care. My own car is a good testimant.

Rob x-7 01-05-2003 11:28 AM

Oh the car was black, check the posts under "project vert#2"

Racer X 01-05-2003 12:19 PM

Nice!!Should turn out awesome when its done. :bigthumg:

1Revvin7 01-05-2003 12:22 PM

Damn rob, do u ever consider doing this for other ppl? If so how much? You're work looks nice from here, I would have to see up close though https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Rob x-7 01-05-2003 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Jan 5 2003, 01:22 PM
Damn rob, do u ever consider doing this for other ppl? If so how much? You're work looks nice from here, I would have to see up close though https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

Plenty of people have seen my car, and the paint on there is 4 years old. \



I dont know how many people would be willing to spend the money on a

FC to paint it the way I paint it, and I dont know if I would feel comfortable skipping steps to paint someone's car https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/dunno.gif

j9fd3s 01-05-2003 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jan 5 2003, 09:27 AM
It will all be wet sanded and polished, another step alot of shops dont want to bother with anymore. It adds about a days worth of work by the time I do it, wet sand, 2 different compounds, 2 machine glazes, and one finishing glaze by hand, all 3M Perfect-It III which is thier newest stuff, Ill take a pic of the gloss, maybe it will come out cool if I put a ruler against the paint or something to try to get a perspective.



After that with the paint I used all that will be needed is a wax every 6 months or so, it is VERY chip,chemical, and UV resistant. I can gurantee gloss for at least 10 years if you were to just leave it outside and just wash it, it will probably out last the car with normal care. My own car is a good testimant.

do you add an extra coat of paint to compensate for the polishing? or does it not matter



mike

Rob x-7 01-05-2003 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 5 2003, 01:28 PM
[quote name='Rob x-7' date='Jan 5 2003, 09:27 AM'] It will all be wet sanded and polished, another step alot of shops dont want to bother with anymore. It adds about a days worth of work by the time I do it, wet sand, 2 different compounds, 2 machine glazes, and one finishing glaze by hand, all 3M Perfect-It III which is thier newest stuff, Ill take a pic of the gloss, maybe it will come out cool if I put a ruler against the paint or something to try to get a perspective.



After that with the paint I used all that will be needed is a wax every 6 months or so, it is VERY chip,chemical, and UV resistant. I can gurantee gloss for at least 10 years if you were to just leave it outside and just wash it, it will probably out last the car with normal care. My own car is a good testimant.

do you add an extra coat of paint to compensate for the polishing? or does it not matter



mike [/quote]

I do put one more coat on there for polishing, just so that when Im done I have the desired amount of paint still on there.



Some paints actually tell you to put more coats if your going to wet sand, when I used the DuPont Chroma Premier clear for my Lexus it was 2 coats, 3 if you were going to sand and polish, so I put 3. All of todays high solids stuff is 2 coats, anymore and you have too much paint on there which can chip easily.

j9fd3s 01-05-2003 12:54 PM

coo coo



mike

Apex13B 01-05-2003 01:33 PM

Rob...since you dont seem avid about running an rx7 painting business https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png ...what body shop would you reccomend on LI?

Apex13B 01-05-2003 01:42 PM

rob is gonna slap the **** outta me....im bothering him too much

vosko 01-05-2003 01:48 PM

rob said he will paint it but are you willing to pay $3000+ for a good paint job ? most rx7 people aren't. i know i would but i simply don't have that much money and i'm talking about my FD https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

j9fd3s 01-05-2003 06:03 PM

id be wiling to pay that much, its a better paint job than a $5k one here



mike

vosko 01-05-2003 06:07 PM

well i think rob charges $3k but i could be wrong....i'm sure he will tell you lol

j9fd3s 01-05-2003 06:09 PM

yah, i'm waiting for him to bust out his calculator, i'm thinking like $3500-4k with is a deal if its as good as it looks, its really hard to find a body shop that does a halfway decent job here



mike

Rob x-7 01-05-2003 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 5 2003, 07:09 PM
yah, i'm waiting for him to bust out his calculator, i'm thinking like $3500-4k with is a deal if its as good as it looks, its really hard to find a body shop that does a halfway decent job here



mike

Give the man a cigar, he guessed right, it would be in the $3500 range or so.



I know body shops that charge $2000 for a paint job. No taking apart, spot priming, no wet sanding and polishing, no painting of moldings,mirrors, **** like that, and its a crap shoot if they will use a brand name clear.



Trend is for alot of shops to skimp on the clear by using alot of these cheap clears that are out on the market now. A good line is "this is what they use in Germany, you never heard of it here because it just came to this country", you can insert any country in there, Italy is another good one they use, lol.



Money can be saved by taking the car apart and putting it back together by the owner. Also a note: I usually use 1 of 2 friends shops with paint booths when it comes time for full jobs and dont usually do it in my shop. Only prep is done in my shop then I borrow a booth to cut down on any dust.

j9fd3s 01-05-2003 06:54 PM

yah, we have the $2000 paint jobs too, but it looks worse than the $700 miracle job



mike

vosko 01-05-2003 08:18 PM

lmao @ mike

1Revvin7 01-05-2003 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Jan 5 2003, 07:51 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jan 5 2003, 07:09 PM'] yah, i'm waiting for him to bust out his calculator, i'm thinking like $3500-4k with is a deal if its as good as it looks, its really hard to find a body shop that does a halfway decent job here



mike

Give the man a cigar, he guessed right, it would be in the $3500 range or so.



I know body shops that charge $2000 for a paint job. No taking apart, spot priming, no wet sanding and polishing, no painting of moldings,mirrors, **** like that, and its a crap shoot if they will use a brand name clear.



Trend is for alot of shops to skimp on the clear by using alot of these cheap clears that are out on the market now. A good line is "this is what they use in Germany, you never heard of it here because it just came to this country", you can insert any country in there, Italy is another good one they use, lol.



Money can be saved by taking the car apart and putting it back together by the owner. Also a note: I usually use 1 of 2 friends shops with paint booths when it comes time for full jobs and dont usually do it in my shop. Only prep is done in my shop then I borrow a booth to cut down on any dust. [/quote]

Thats not bad at all, good paints jobs usually are 4k. Next time I paint my car I will atleast spend that, or hmmm maybe i could use macco,LOL!

j9fd3s 01-06-2003 11:06 AM

i'm gonna take my gsl-se it miracle, they wont do a great job but its just as good as a professional body shop around here



mike

Seppuku 01-06-2003 12:46 PM

Hey rob how much would you charge to paint the tail lights? I still got to get my interior out and sent to you too!

rx7machine 02-01-2003 10:31 PM

Looks good man. :bigthumg:

tailights, might be a bit hard to see but they look 10000% better then the way they looked from Mazda
First time I've seen anyone do that before.. but looks bad. :smirk:


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