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Benny 01-24-2004 03:04 PM

So this morning my car decided not to want to go into 5th gear anymore.. not even when the car is off, it dont grind or anything, it just dont go in period, like there is nothing there... Its gone into gear like twice all day. This sucks.. would it be a 5th gear syncro thats out? Or is there another fix for this? WHats the average cost to fix it? help!

turborotor 01-24-2004 03:29 PM

Have you tried matching rpms to road speed and see if it slips in. It should, if it doesn't you have a problem wiht the tranny. If you are really good you can shift into gears with out using the clutch by matching rps to road speed, except into first from a stop.

j9fd3s 01-24-2004 04:39 PM

its rare that the 5th gear synchro wont let you in at all, usually it will just grind.



it needs to have the tailhousing pulled off to see whats going on in there

turborotor 01-24-2004 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 24 2004, 06:39 PM
its rare that the 5th gear synchro wont let you in at all, usually it will just grind.



it needs to have the tailhousing pulled off to see whats going on in there

Exactly, I've been running with broken 5th gear synchro for 5 years now.

i.didnt.do.it 01-24-2004 06:12 PM

Do you really use 5th gear anyway? 4th is my gas saver.

teknics 01-24-2004 06:43 PM

4th is your gas saver? boy start using 5th and youll be up 10mpg.



as for your problem, try what turborotor said, bring it to about 3-4k in 4th and without using the clutch just push it towards 5th and hold it....DONT push it into the gear just push it slightly like enough pressure to let it slide in, as the rpms go down the gate should open and let it slip in. this is how i drive 90% of the time, i hate clutching it's so tiresome.



if not, welcome to the world of 4speed.



kevin.

j9fd3s 01-24-2004 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by turborotor' date='Jan 24 2004, 04:08 PM
Exactly, I've been running with broken 5th gear synchro for 5 years now.

lol, its easy to fix

teknics 01-24-2004 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 24 2004, 08:18 PM
lol, its easy to fix

yea but who can afford downtime?



kevin.

j9fd3s 01-24-2004 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Jan 24 2004, 06:38 PM
yea but who can afford downtime?



kevin.

me

RX7Aggie 01-24-2004 09:33 PM

simple fix: just get a smaller rear diff gear. then, you will lower your final drive ratio and be able to cruise in 4th at 80 mph at 4K rpm



dont complain to me if you can't spin your wheels any more, though....

Benny 01-24-2004 09:47 PM

i dont like cruising in 4th gear. And its a problem i would just like to fix anyhow. Its weird though.. last night it was perfectly fine. then this morning when i left to work, it wouldnt go into gear period, not with the car off, or stopped.

teknics 01-24-2004 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 24 2004, 09:55 PM
me

you have 40 cars



kevin

j9fd3s 01-25-2004 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Jan 24 2004, 09:26 PM
you have 40 cars



kevin

its like a 4 hour job

teknics 01-25-2004 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 25 2004, 11:28 AM
its like a 4 hour job

exactly, you figure in breaks, and food time, and sit down and watch tv time, and deal with annoying girl time, etc etc, and its a 10 day job.



kevin.

turborotor 01-25-2004 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Jan 24 2004, 10:38 PM
yea but who can afford downtime?



kevin.

Yeah, i only have one car. DOn't feel like taking the tranny out for this only was doing a clutch job.

Benny 01-26-2004 02:14 AM

could it be a bent shift fork?

j9fd3s 01-26-2004 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Benny' date='Jan 26 2004, 12:14 AM
could it be a bent shift fork?

unlikely, the forks are cast steel. it could be the following; jammed shift rod (you wouldnt have reverse in this case), synchro broken so badly a peice is jammed in there, failed hub sleeve (again reverse wouldnt work), it could also be the shifter

Benny 01-26-2004 11:54 AM

what about the shifter could it be?

j9fd3s 01-26-2004 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by Benny' date='Jan 26 2004, 09:54 AM
what about the shifter could it be?

i dunno, could be something broke and is stuck in there

SpecialT 01-26-2004 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Benny' date='Jan 26 2004, 12:54 PM
what about the shifter could it be?

Could be, pull off the interior stuff and have a look.

I had a Toyota that did the same thing once, but 3rd.

Thought it was the tranny, but after a quick inspection of the interior linkage

it was just a little "pin" in the way.


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