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1Revvin7 12-09-2001 10:54 PM

I busted a oil hose off that goes from my mech oil metering pump. The hose is busted off on top of my block, the uppermost one. I can't get that DAMN :madgo: banjo,butterfly, whatever the **** its called, bolt off!!! how does the damn thing work??? I need to get the clamp/bolt off to put the hose back on the nozzle. I didn't want to break anything else so this is why i posted.

13BAce 12-10-2001 12:29 AM

You broke the plastic oil metering line, right? The banjo bolts that go into the oil metering pump can be removed with a 10 mm socket. You should really get a new hose.

1Revvin7 12-10-2001 09:15 PM

That banjo thingy still won't come off. And the 11mm fits on it. It just spins around like a washer. It doens't look like a bolt either, it looks like a clamp. I mean how can the hose go over the metal nozzle, then the Banjo go over the hose, if its a nut? I can't just pull it off either, it won't come, and iv'e sprayed the bitch w/ lubrication. :dontgetit:

Rotaryman88 12-10-2001 11:10 PM

I cut mine https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Sorry I can't be of much more help on that...I'm the lazy, "find the easiest way out" kinda guy...

13BAce 12-11-2001 12:14 AM


That banjo thingy still won't come off. And the 11mm fits on it. It just spins around like a washer. It doens't look like a bolt either, it looks like a clamp. I mean how can the hose go over the metal nozzle, then the Banjo go over the hose, if its a nut? I can't just pull it off either, it won't come, and iv'e sprayed the bitch w/ lubrication. :dontgetit:
Are you talking about the oil injector? Your description is kind of confusing.

1Revvin7 12-11-2001 08:00 AM

U know those four rubber hoses that carry oil to the engine. They are pumped by a mechancial oil metering pump, the rod from the throttle body connnects to it. Its right next to the main pulley. Under the Upper Intake the four hoses connect to 4 nozzles, where the oil is injected into the engine parts. They are connectde by a banjo type clamp/ butterfly clamp.

1Revvin7 12-11-2001 08:01 AM


I cut mine https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png



Sorry I can't be of much more help on that...I'm the lazy, "find the easiest way out" kinda guy...
So what are u doing then? putting oil in your fuel?

13BAce 12-11-2001 01:10 PM


U know those four rubber hoses that carry oil to the engine. They are pumped by a mechancial oil metering pump, the rod from the throttle body connnects to it. Its right next to the main pulley. Under the Upper Intake the four hoses connect to 4 nozzles, where the oil is injected into the engine parts. They are connectde by a banjo type clamp/ butterfly clamp.
Now I know what you're talking about. The oil injector has to be removed. This is how everything is installed: copper washer, oil metering line, copper washer, oil injector. You need an open ended wrench to remove the oil injector. If that doesn't work then try a pair of vise-grips.

1Revvin7 12-11-2001 09:48 PM

ok i got it off, with the vice grips, it was realy stuck on there, took a while. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png But ya i gotta replace the hose, is so old and hard/brittle that i can't get it back on the nozzle. one thing lead to the next, When will it ever stop? never https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif

13BAce 12-12-2001 12:45 AM


ok i got it off, with the vice grips, it was realy stuck on there, took a while. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png But ya i gotta replace the hose, is so old and hard/brittle that i can't get it back on the nozzle. one thing lead to the next, When will it ever stop? never https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif
Was it the oil line that broke or the vacuum line? I would always replace a broken oil metering line. They're about $20 each. There's always something that can be done to the car.https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png

1Revvin7 12-12-2001 11:51 AM



ok i got it off, with the vice grips, it was realy stuck on there, took a while. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png But ya i gotta replace the hose, is so old and hard/brittle that i can't get it back on the nozzle. one thing lead to the next, When will it ever stop? never https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif
Was it the oil line that broke or the vacuum line? I would always replace a broken oil metering line. They're about $20 each. There's always something that can be done to the car.https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
Oil....

13BAce 12-12-2001 01:50 PM




ok i got it off, with the vice grips, it was realy stuck on there, took a while. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png But ya i gotta replace the hose, is so old and hard/brittle that i can't get it back on the nozzle. one thing lead to the next, When will it ever stop? never https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/devil.gif
Was it the oil line that broke or the vacuum line? I would always replace a broken oil metering line. They're about $20 each. There's always something that can be done to the car.https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png
Oil....
If I were you I would replace all 4 lines.

1Revvin7 12-21-2001 10:01 PM

I finally got around to getting the new oil line. I found out the oil line comes as a hard line with the ring and nozzle already attached by the little clamp. Thats y i could never get it off. Now that i figured it out i tried to take off the oil injector on the rotor housing. The injector needs and open end 16mm wrench to get it off. The oil line goes over the nozzle on the ring and is clamped on by a butterfly clamp. The oil injector goes through the ring. I still can't get that ******' :madgo: oil injector out!!! i used a crows foot to get in real close, cuz there isn't much space on the rear ( closed to driver ) rotor housing oil injector. The wrench will not fit on it. The head of the wrench is to thick, the bolt goes BIG HEADED, about 17mm, then cuts down to 16mm, where the hexagon shape is, then goes back up to 17mm and is threaded. The space where the hexagon part is ( where the open end wrench fits on, u know like the head of a bolt) Is like 3mm long. The smallest width wrench i have is like 4mm in width. So i can't get it down there to turn it. In my frustration i broke another ******' :madgo: oil line. But this one was on the intake. THose 2 on the intake have twice as much area of hexagon head. So it came off in a sinch. Then i started lookin at it. The oil injector is a bolt, that is hollow in the middle to carry the oil. And there is a smooth section where the ring of the oil ling goes over. The oil ring has a nozzle where the oil line connects to. The oil is then put through the nozzle, through the ring by a needle size hole. Now on the oil injector there are two needle size holes on it where the oil goes inside of it.

Do these holes need to line up?? How could u tell if they are, they are needle size in diameter. And plus u have to screw in the oil injector, thus turing the position of the hole, while the oil line ring is on it. So u can;t see either holes.

So do these holes need to line up, and what about getting the F'in oil injector off my rotor housing??





Sorry it I wrote so much, wanted to clarify any futue Q's..

ILUVMY88CABRIO 12-21-2001 10:28 PM

I'm not much help with your latest questions. But I have a question for you. What were you originally trying to do to your car when you couldn't get the bolt off? Sounds like you have not been able to drive your 7 for the past few weeks. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif That sucks.

1Revvin7 12-21-2001 11:19 PM

True that https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif Its been in storage so i decided to take her apart. I had my injectors cleaned, all new blue silicone vacuum hoses, covered all my old wiring harness and all other wires in blue convolting tubing, in process of putting in all stainless steel braided hoses for fuel and radiator hoses. I might to the TB mod too and some other little things, i also added some boltons and took out the egr. I did the atf trick and put in new plugs and o2 sensor also. I would do alot more but i still own my dad some loot for my paint job and getting all the body damage fixed, on top of car insurance and car payment! yea i goto hard highschool too and have only one job, im only 17 too. I'f i had a high paying job and no school, u be takin to a man w/ a 12 sec 7... hey im gettin there though, im ahead of the game of everyone i know and everyone they know....... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png

ILUVMY88CABRIO 12-21-2001 11:30 PM

Did you try some liquid wrench on that bolt you can't get off? When I put my exhaust on I sprayed all the bolts with liquid wrench the day before, and didn't have any problems. :smilewinkgrin:

13BAce 12-22-2001 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Dec. 21 2001,23:01
So it came off in a sinch. Then i started lookin at it. The oil injector is a bolt, that is hollow in the middle to carry the oil. And there is a smooth section where the ring of the oil ling goes over. The oil ring has a nozzle where the oil line connects to. The oil is then put through the nozzle, through the ring by a needle size hole. Now on the oil injector there are two needle size holes on it where the oil goes inside of it.

Do these holes need to line up?? How could u tell if they are, they are needle size in diameter. And plus u have to screw in the oil injector, thus turing the position of the hole, while the oil line ring is on it. So u can;t see either holes.

So do these holes need to line up, and what about getting the F'in oil injector off my rotor housing??





Sorry it I wrote so much, wanted to clarify any futue Q's..

You don't have to worry about lining up the holes. Those are banjo bolts.

1Revvin7 12-22-2001 08:41 AM

Thank god i don't have to line them up... Now what about getting the banjo bolt on the rotor housing out?

dac 12-22-2001 09:51 AM

If it is broken off you might try an EASY OUT. It should go right in there and unscrew the rest of it out. 2nd option would be carefully heat the metal around the bolt to expand the metal around the fitting and then get it out.



I've had to go that a time or two (though not on the Mazda).

13BAce 12-22-2001 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Dec. 22 2001,09:41
Thank god i don't have to line them up... Now what about getting the banjo bolt on the rotor housing out?

Have you tried vise-grips?

1Revvin7 12-22-2001 07:27 PM

The oil injector is not broken, just the hose that ran to it.. I have tried PEN, which is just like liquid wrench.. I also have tried vice grips, many sizes lengths etc...

13BAce 12-22-2001 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Dec. 22 2001,20:27
The oil injector is not broken, just the hose that ran to it.. I have tried PEN, which is just like liquid wrench.. I also have tried vice grips, many sizes lengths etc...

Did you use a pair of vise-grips "thin" enough to slide in there?

1Revvin7 12-23-2001 10:54 PM

I finally got it, ah relief. I used an alligator plies w/ like 1 1/2'

arms on it. The normal pliers couldn't grip it. W/ the alligator plies i could grap all the way around the round head. Thxs everyone https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

13BAce 12-24-2001 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Dec. 23 2001,23:54
I finally got it, ah relief. I used an alligator plies w/ like 1 1/2'

arms on it. The normal pliers couldn't grip it. W/ the alligator plies i could grap all the way around the round head. Thxs everyone https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

FINALLY! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

ILUVMY88CABRIO 12-24-2001 03:02 AM

Lets throw him a party!

13BAce 12-24-2001 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by ILUVMY88CABRIO' date='Dec. 24 2001,04:02
Lets throw him a party!

Who's invited?

ILUVMY88CABRIO 12-24-2001 08:40 AM

Anyone who wants to. You get the keg. :thumbsup:

1Revvin7 12-24-2001 10:00 AM

My house 6;00 AM sharp. We're alcoholics right?

13BAce 12-24-2001 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Dec. 24 2001,11:00
My house 6;00 AM sharp. We're alcoholics right?

Not me. I'll drink orange juice in the corner by myself.

13BAce 12-24-2001 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by ILUVMY88CABRIO' date='Dec. 24 2001,09:40
Anyone who wants to. You get the keg. :thumbsup:

I don't think it would fit in my car.


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