Well my car smokes quite a bit, only when it's warming up. Pours smoke everywhere, if I bring the idle up to around 3k it stops smoking. I'm thinking turbo seals.







Thanks





-Kevin

if it only smokes on warm up id tend to suspect the engine. is there oil on the spark plugs?

could also be the turbo though... only because at startup with the oil cooler thermostat closed, fuel pressure tend to skyrocket, and if you have weak seals on the turbos(or the engine also) your car will smoke a lot...



i agree with the previous post though, about the sparkplugs, easy enough to check

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Most likely the Oil Control Rings.

[quote name='FikseRxSeven' date='Aug 28 2005, 12:40 PM']could also be the turbo though... only because at startup with the oil cooler thermostat closed, fuel pressure tend to skyrocket, and if you have weak seals on the turbos(or the engine also) your car will smoke a lot...



i agree with the previous post though, about the sparkplugs, easy enough to check


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i meant oil pressure .... not fuel pressure https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif



im hesitant to say oil control rings because, i had the same problem with my FD (assuming its the same problem) and before and after rebuild it was the same thing, and after another rebuild it was the same. smoke would come out of the exhaust the first 5-10 mins then it would slowly go away as the oil pressure goes down, so thats 2 sets of new oil control rings

It's not on warn up, well it could be because I have to hold the idle at like 2500 to get it to run, damn tb mod. Also it's fine till I start to sit in traffic, then it smokes, I'll check the plugs after I let it cool down some.

i'd believe j9fd3s before i'd believe me though... so keep that in mind.. lol

Well here are the pic, the intake side is clean, and dry no oil, so I think that would rule out the turbo.... maybe i'm running too much premix? I donno, i'm using a 10:1 ratio.







The plugs are basically bone dry.

doesnt rule out turbo.. remember you got 2 sides to the turbo https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

I was also thinking that, thought I typed rules out the intake side of the turbo.

Yeah, if it was the turbo that is bad, it would be leaking oil straight into the exhaust on the hotside. The oil would never even get into the combustion chamber.

It is possible for oil to go out the compressor side and through the intake, but it doesn't look like it.



Oh and why dosen't your car idle? Mine idles at a perfect 750rpm and I have no emissions and ported throttle body.

You've seen my car, if it's cold it won't idle at start up, the Rtek ECU revoves the AEW. (Accel. Engine Warmup). Just a PITA, i'll start looking for the Vac leaks sometime, mostly too lazy.

Probably not vacume leaks, your idle adjust isn't set right.

Remind me next time I'm near your car, I'll take a look at it.

[quote name='nismo convert' date='Aug 28 2005, 04:15 PM']Well here are the pic, the intake side is clean, and dry no oil, so I think that would rule out the turbo.... maybe i'm running too much premix? I donno, i'm using a 10:1 ratio.

The plugs are basically bone dry.


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Dude I dunno what units your using but the generaly accept ratio is somewhere between 128-256:1 or 1oz:1-2gal

Metric





10ml-1liter

That's a juicy amount of premix



I was using 250-300 mL per fill up

I'm using 500 usually fill up around 1/4 tank. Maybe I'll cut back and find out....

I forget but I calculated that I was suppost to be using 250 mL per 40L fill up or something to get a slightly above ratio than whats the norm



Cause it's always better to be safe than sorry



But even though I leaned of the side of error by going 250, I still couldn't really tell if I actually got 250 out of the bottle so I'd just pour roughly 300







Long story short I considered myself to be using too much premix.. But at least it was safe

I really don't think this is the cause of the smoking tho, so it's bigger turbo, or rebuilt time this winter, now I need abeater.

Yeah Yeah!!!! Bigger turbo and rebuild....oh and porting too!!



Do it right the first time!!



https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

i love how everyone blames a crappy idle on the "tb mod" after they do it.



my car idled perfectly with the tb mod and a whole bunch of other **** done.



take the blame yourself, you screwed the idle, not the tb mod. geebus.



kevin.

[quote name='nismo convert' date='Aug 28 2005, 10:59 PM']I'm using 500 usually fill up around 1/4 tank. Maybe I'll cut back and find out....


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TOo much premix won't cause smoke. I run 30:1 in my lawnmower and it doesn't smoke.



DId you overfill your motor oil in your last oil change?

I just did an oil change last Sat. put 4 liters in, thats it.





Teknics, when

'I did the porting ant TB I had it done then I had to get my car going in a hurry, as it quickly became my dailydriver. So I didn't have time to monkey around with the idle, I'll fix it some just don't know then, I know it's possable, just no time right now.

[quote name='Cheers!' date='Aug 29 2005, 07:03 AM']TOo much premix won't cause smoke. I run 30:1 in my lawnmower and it doesn't smoke.






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I already said that, it's obviously something seal related.

[quote name='Cheers!' date='Aug 29 2005, 08:03 AM']TOo much premix won't cause smoke. I run 30:1 in my lawnmower and it doesn't smoke.


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Won't cause ALOT of smoke...



You can't tell me it won't cause smoke at all... Really now..

I'd check the tps.

[quote name='Dramon_Killer' date='Aug 30 2005, 02:22 AM']I'd check the tps.


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How is the tps going to make it smoke?

[quote name='nismo convert' date='Aug 30 2005, 01:23 PM']How is the tps going to make it smoke?


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dont listen to dramon he couldnt find a loose injector connector for months.



kevin.