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Baldy 01-15-2003 01:28 PM

on my lunch break, went home, and found my new e-bay bought cone filter had arrived. I want to put this on right away, and I know I can get a small airpump filter at an autoparts store, but my pump will be gone within a month...here's my question: Do I necessarily need to put the filter on the pump intake? will it ruin it, or mess something up that I'll need?

j9fd3s 01-15-2003 01:31 PM

it does need a filter but if its only a couple weeks its not a huge deal



mike

Baldy 01-15-2003 01:33 PM

if the filter is cheap, I guess I can get one to be safe

j9fd3s 01-15-2003 01:38 PM

yah, or take the belt off



mike

Baldy 01-15-2003 01:49 PM

I still have the cats on...they will be removed within a month, which is why I was gonna remove the pump

87RX7NA 01-15-2003 02:13 PM

Seems like the filter was 5 to 10 at Pep Boys here in OK. I'd put it on though. Leave it there for a couple of weeks, hollow out the cats, take off the air pump and the belt, and I wouldn't worry about the dual alternator pulley. I've had my air pump off for about 9 months, and I haven't had any slipping problems at all.

Baldy 01-15-2003 02:21 PM

sounds good...but I'm expecting an rb header and presilencer soon https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png , and thanks for the advice on the pulley thing...less $ spent is better :bigthumg:



ooo...too many smileys...

Turbo II 01-15-2003 03:07 PM

:bigthumg:

87RX7NA 01-15-2003 03:13 PM

The pipe that runs from the air pump the cat will need to connect to the RB Pre-silencer, so you might not want to remove the air pump after all. At least, that's the way I understand it (The little pipe running off the side with the flange on the end.)

Baldy 01-15-2003 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by 87RX7NA' date='Jan 15 2003, 04:13 PM
The pipe that runs from the air pump the cat will need to connect to the RB Pre-silencer, so you might not want to remove the air pump after all. At least, that's the way I understand it (The little pipe running off the side with the flange on the end.)

isn't the purpose of that pipe to provide air to facilitate the catalytic reaction, which would not longer be useful once the cats are removed?

Baldy 01-15-2003 03:34 PM

I just took an extended bread (20 mins.) to install the filter...sometimes I can be impatient

Baldy 01-15-2003 03:41 PM

sorry, and extended BREAK...I couldn't edit my post for some reason



and is the filter assembly supposed to be supported by something, or does it just rest on the stuff below it?

j9fd3s 01-15-2003 03:57 PM

the kits usually come with somekinda hardware to hold it up. the hks kit uses the rear airbox bolt and a bracket goes down to the bottom as well



mike

87RX7NA 01-15-2003 04:57 PM

It just rests on the stuff below it. There's no brackets or anything for that kit. The thing about the air pump is that the RB Pre-silencer has a place for the air pump to connect to it (I thought it was a type of cat https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR ) Anyways, that's my $.02.

Baldy 01-16-2003 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by 87RX7NA' date='Jan 15 2003, 05:57 PM
It just rests on the stuff below it. There's no brackets or anything for that kit. The thing about the air pump is that the RB Pre-silencer has a place for the air pump to connect to it (I thought it was a type of cat https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR ) Anyways, that's my $.02.

ok, now I'm confused...anyone else care to shed some light on this?

dcrasta 01-16-2003 10:33 AM

u sure that is for the air pump and not for the secondary ports ?

Baldy 01-16-2003 11:10 AM

so, do I need the airpump while using an rb presilencer, on an s4, to properly operate the secondary ports?

j9fd3s 01-16-2003 11:11 AM

you are supposed to leave that pipe on. it does 2 things, open the 6 ports, and allow air from the air pump to the cat. there is a check valve in the pipe so its ok if the airpump isnt there



mike

Baldy 01-16-2003 11:20 AM

thank you, oh fountain of knowledge

87RX7NA 01-16-2003 11:59 AM

Oh ****. I took that pipe off. So are my 6 ports not opening?

FCmaniac 01-16-2003 12:46 PM

right, without that backpressure pipe connected, your 6 ports are not working

87RX7NA 01-16-2003 03:47 PM

Well, I guess I'm gonna wire them open then. I coulda swore I saw a tutorial on that around here somewhere...

87RX7NA 01-16-2003 03:53 PM

Well, couldn't find the tutorial. Anyone know where it is?

j9fd3s 01-16-2003 03:59 PM

nope, you wanna know how to wire the ports open?



mike

hayas-fc 01-16-2003 09:47 PM

so if i took off the backpressure pipe it would not benefit me? but would it help alot if i wired the 6th ports open?



keegun

87RX7NA 01-17-2003 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 16 2003, 03:59 PM
nope, you wanna know how to wire the ports open?



mike

Definitely.

j9fd3s 01-17-2003 12:10 PM

ok if you look on the passenger side of the engine,

http://pengaru.com/~swivel/cars/rx-7...2/IMG_1487.JPG you will see cylinders on each end of the intake manifold, the actuators (cylinders) hold the ports closed, so take em off and turn in the other way, wire open boom done.



mike

pengaru 01-17-2003 05:34 PM

hey, that picture looks familiar :smirk:

87RX7NA 01-21-2003 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' date='Jan 17 2003, 12:10 PM
ok if you look on the passenger side of the engine,

http://pengaru.com/~swivel/cars/rx-7...2/IMG_1487.JPG you will see cylinders on each end of the intake manifold, the actuators (cylinders) hold the ports closed, so take em off and turn in the other way, wire open boom done.



mike

Alright, I know I"m bringing up an old subject, but what the hell. I started taking off the actuators, but the intake manifold was still on my car, so it was a bitch. Should I just take it apart, and do it with it lying on my floor, or is there an easier way? And one more thing, how many bolts are on the actuators, just two bolts and two screws? Or is there one I can't see?

pengaru 01-21-2003 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by 87RX7NA' date='Jan 21 2003, 10:56 PM
[quote name='j9fd3s' date='Jan 17 2003, 12:10 PM'] ok if you look on the passenger side of the engine,

http://pengaru.com/~swivel/cars/rx-7...2/IMG_1487.JPG you will see cylinders on each end of the intake manifold, the actuators (cylinders) hold the ports closed, so take em off and turn in the other way, wire open boom done.



mike

Alright, I know I"m bringing up an old subject, but what the hell. I started taking off the actuators, but the intake manifold was still on my car, so it was a bitch. Should I just take it apart, and do it with it lying on my floor, or is there an easier way? And one more thing, how many bolts are on the actuators, just two bolts and two screws? Or is there one I can't see? [/quote]

the actuators are held on by two nuts. There are two studs protruding from the LIM, in the image above you can stil see the studs present and the nuts are threaded on, the twist tie is actually going from the linkage arm to one of the studs.



Once you remove the two 10mm nuts, the actuator can slide off. They might stick a bit just tap em a bit and they should come loose... they do have a gasket.



note, each one has 2 10mm nuts holding it on, there will be 4 totoal for two actuators.



You don't have to remove those screws, if you want to remove the sleeves and linkage altogether then you will want to remove the screws but you have to remove the LIM to do this anyways since the sleeves are in the side housings of the engine.

Apex13B 01-21-2003 07:25 PM

oh and by the way....with that ACV plate...do any vacuum/pressure line need to be blocked off?

pengaru 01-21-2003 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Apex13B' date='Jan 22 2003, 01:25 AM
oh and by the way....with that ACV plate...do any vacuum/pressure line need to be blocked off?

nope.



on a T2 I believe there is an issue with one vacuum line that used to go to the ACV or something which some people end up making a hole on the blockoff plate and adding a nipple for it.

87RX7NA 01-21-2003 10:27 PM

Alright, I'll take a whack at it tomorrow. It wasn't budging which was the problem i was having. And those are just normal twist ties? Like for baggies? If so, this is gonna take me about 10 minutes. :bigthumg:


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