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Shane.Trammell 10-04-2003 01:34 PM

ok how much for the vert? what size filter? also any pointers?

4RotorRocket 10-04-2003 01:47 PM

What oil are you planning on useing?

Apex13B 10-04-2003 01:53 PM

10-40 castrol....use purolator's filter for the car. Least restriction and half-decent filtration (just get the rocks out)

Shane.Trammell 10-04-2003 01:57 PM

penn 10w 30

Apex13B 10-04-2003 01:59 PM

that's fine shane, i just prefer castrol for some reason https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683785.gif

Shane.Trammell 10-04-2003 02:01 PM

umm ok, should i put some marvel in there?

Apex13B 10-04-2003 02:11 PM

put it in the spark plug holes turn the motor over a few times by hand...let it sit over night. Take off the cats and let it idle for a min the next morning with open exhaust. Nice happy clean motor guts now https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png





AKA the ATF trick

Shane.Trammell 10-04-2003 02:21 PM

umm how much oil?

Rob x-7 10-04-2003 04:30 PM

oil is about $2 a quart

filter anywhere from $3.50 and up



5 quarts of oil is needed



you probably already have a metric tool set, you will also need the

right size oil filter wrench, a drain bucket, jack and stands, some rags,

and a funnel. I personally pour the first quart carefully, then cut the bottom of that oil container open with a razor blade so I always have a nice clean funnel

to use.



Dont forget a container to pour the used oil in and bring it somewhere to be disposed of, dont dump in or throw it in the garbage, do the right thing.

teknics 10-04-2003 09:11 PM

yea cutting the bottle and using it as a funnel is a good idea, no chance of getting **** from an old funnel into your car.



on my first oil change for my 7 i decided to go "high class" and get the purolator "pureone" filter "with micronic filtration"....i thinks it's overdoing it but it's nice and shiny ohhh ahhh. lol https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



kevin.

FCmaniac 10-05-2003 10:03 AM

The Pureone is one of the best out there. I don't think that's overkill. Overkill would be a K&N every 1500 miles or something.

teknics 10-05-2003 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by FCmaniac' date='Oct 5 2003, 10:03 AM
The Pureone is one of the best out there. I don't think that's overkill. Overkill would be a K&N every 1500 miles or something.

i guess youre righty, but still it's nice, shiny, and blue, ohhh ahhh.



at strauss auto they have cutaways of "leading brand" "purolator" and "PUREONE", basically pureone looks like it has 10x as many pleats/folds as the purolator, which itelf has 10 times the folds/pleats of "leading brand".



which leaves the questions if purolator is so good, why is it's competitor the "leading" brand? hehe, i asked an employee that question and he was lost.



kevin.

relisys190 10-05-2003 11:18 AM

Castrol 20-50.. but that's just me, i ALSO use a purolator "BLUE TIN" oil filter



When scott over at mazsport use to change my oil he'd use Castrol 20-50 and an OEM mazda filter. That's just as good



-Markus



"GOod luck, let us know" CHEERS!

wanksta 10-05-2003 06:30 PM

Go buy a magnetic drain plug. They run about $2.00 at autozone. Nice to have. A little extra help for the filter. Also, good way to moniter for trouble.



James

teknics 10-05-2003 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by wanksta' date='Oct 5 2003, 06:30 PM
Go buy a magnetic drain plug. They run about $2.00 at autozone. Nice to have. A little extra help for the filter. Also, good way to moniter for trouble.



James

you're oil pan should have a magnet in it already, at least i know a bunch of cars have one in there maybe not the rx7.



if youre going to get a new drain plug go for the ones that dont need to be removed to change the oil, makes it super quick https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png



kevin.

FCmaniac 10-06-2003 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by teknics' date='Oct 5 2003, 11:38 AM
which leaves the questions if purolator is so good, why is it's competitor the "leading" brand? hehe, i asked an employee that question and he was lost.

haha, good question

pmr2000 10-06-2003 12:32 PM

Isn't it 6.1 quarts? The Haynes manual says 5, the owner's manual and FSM say 6.1 US quarts. Just changed it for the first time on my '88 vert and added 6 quarts.

My old '79 took 5 1/2 quarts.



Filter is easy to change being on the top just poke a hole in it as it drains and put a rag underneath as Rob stated. I like to turn the left wheel to the right, can get to the plug without jacking up car. It's a 19MM socket.

Rob x-7 10-06-2003 12:38 PM

its 5 quarts, I dont know where you got the extra oil to go?

pmr2000 10-06-2003 01:24 PM

Is the FSM and owner's manual wrong? I was a little suspicous when I saw the Haynes said 5. I changed the filter also of course if that adds to the capacity.



If it's 5 I guess I now have an extra quart in there, should I drain it?

donhayes 10-06-2003 01:28 PM

The owners manuel says to put more oil in the car than is needed. Thats why you check it every time you pour a quart in.

teknics 10-06-2003 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Oct 6 2003, 12:38 PM
its 5 quarts, I dont know where you got the extra oil to go?

where all oil goes when it's feeling a little crowdy.



to the little drip's room.



kevin.

UniqueTII 10-06-2003 02:01 PM

I only used Castrol 20W-50 in my TII, and I used the Napa filter.

Rob x-7 10-06-2003 04:03 PM

Never heard of a FC taking more then 5 quarts, so I would say the FSM is wrong or they arent US quarts



or your reading it wrong.

FCmaniac 10-06-2003 06:31 PM

I thought I read 5.5 with filter but I always put in a 5 quart jug and its just enough.

UniqueTII 10-06-2003 07:07 PM

The filter doesn't take up any oil unless the car is running.

FCmaniac 10-07-2003 08:15 AM

That makes sense

pmr2000 10-07-2003 08:37 AM

Guess I better drain a quart then, or should I just drive real hard to burn it? Just joking!



FSM and owners manual does say 6.1 US quarts.



Never had the oil cooler issue with my first gen-manual said 5.5 quarts and that would bring it right to f.

teknics 10-07-2003 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by pmr2000' date='Oct 7 2003, 08:37 AM
Guess I better drain a quart then, or should I just drive real hard to burn it? Just joking!



FSM and owners manual does say 6.1 US quarts.



Never had the oil cooler issue with my first gen-manual said 5.5 quarts and that would bring it right to f.

actuallyu 6.1US Quarts is the complete maximum on a DRY engine, aka you're on the border of bad problems.



here's what the FSM says, verbatim.



Total (Dry Engine): 5.8 (6.1, 5.1)

Oil Pan: 4.4 (4.7, 3.9)

Oil Cooler: .85 (.90, .75)

Oil Filters:

Factory Installed .19 (.20, .17)

Service Parts: .17 (.18, .15)





so since i doubt you drain every last bit of oil from your engine every time you change it your slowly but surely adding way too much to the system.



The reason why 5 quarts is suggested is because when you drain the oil you're mainly draining the oil pan, filter, and then a little extra from other places, your not emptying out the entire engine of oil, some oil will always remain in the block.



So you add the Pan and filter (figure 4.6 altogether) and then since some extra oil will come from the lines to the cooler or other places you just round up to 5 quarts.



By repeatedly putting 6.1 quarts in your slowly building it up, 6.1 when built, drain oil and put another 6.1 in and realistically in the engine is probably 6.4 or so, and so on and so on.



the only time i would ever put 6.1 is into a brand new rebuilt completely oil free engine.



kevin.

Rob x-7 10-07-2003 04:26 PM

just put the 5 qts in, let the car warm up, shut it off, and you will see the oil is full.

Apex13B 10-07-2003 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Rob x-7' date='Oct 6 2003, 04:03 PM
Never heard of a FC taking more then 5 quarts, so I would say the FSM is wrong or they arent US quarts



or your reading it wrong.

i put 7 quarts in mine every oil change.



i also drain the oil cooler because i am insane

pinfield357 10-07-2003 08:25 PM

i use kendall 20w-50 in my turbo 2 with a pure one filter i used to use mazda filters but got tired of ordering them then i was using mobil 1 filters but go tired of paying 12 bux for a filter

pmr2000 10-08-2003 07:40 AM

Damn, I'll definitely drain out a quart then. I just check the dipstick its completely covers the indented portion over the F mark. That's got to be at least 1/2 a quart over.



Thanks


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