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89 Rag 07-11-2002 10:43 PM

first a little background info:



1989 convertible, fresh from paint shop, stripped of all...I mean all parts , a rolling chassis if you will. (pics will be here soon)



Engine: N/A 13B stage II street port, 3mm seals, lightweight rotors, balanced (beyond factory tolerances) ceramic seals throughout, hardened gears, turbo oil pump, windage tray, oil and coolant system mods, port matched intake on and on...



anyway I believe my options to be wide open in the way of accentuating the "laid back in the seat factor" when I step on the pedal. I've weighed the pros and cons of turbo, supercharger, nos etc. and cant seem to make a decision on which would be best, so let me have it, what would y'all do



James

vosko 07-12-2002 09:11 AM

supercharger is good but very tricky to make it work correctly. turbo is alot easier since you can use alot of the factory components to do this. you will however need a stand alone engine management. be prepared for lots of work

DaddyMac 07-12-2002 09:22 AM

stay away from NOS #1



I would get a S/C to be a bit different.

Rotaryman88 07-12-2002 10:25 AM

With the motor setup you already have, you running close to that 200HP mark...which is good, but you have a vert, which is heavy...sooo you do need more power. Supercharger kits do not exist any longer for our cars, if you try to contact Camden or Paxton, you'll find out that they do not make supercharger kits any longer(bastards!)...so your left with either turbo or NOS. Personally, turbo would be the better option...more power, but you built the motor on an NA basis so a turbo may cause to much damage too soon, so that leaves you with NOS. You have ceramic seals(3mm) which can easily accept a 75 shot from a wet system...don't go crazy w/ it though...only spray when you really want to. I'm not a big fan of NOS, but its your cheapest bet for more power...if you want to spend a little extra time & $$$ go turbo. You can use a factory turbo, manifold, etc. You'll need to upgrade your fuel system and get an IC(optional)...w/ about 5psi to 6psi, your looking close to the 300HP mark due to your higher compression.

Shane.Trammell 07-12-2002 02:53 PM

ok sell the na engine find a used turbo one and rebuild it. then you will need the trans and the drive shaft and wiring and rear end and pretty much everything that the car needs to move.

alton316 07-12-2002 04:04 PM

what?

1Revvin7 07-12-2002 10:58 PM

thats a nice n/a setup. Custom turbo setpu would be nice w/ the high compression.

ILUVMY88CABRIO 07-13-2002 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by Rotaryman88' date='Jul 12 2002, 09:25 AM
Supercharger kits do not exist any longer for our cars, if you try to contact Camden or Paxton, you'll find out that they do not make supercharger kits any longer(bastards!)...

Camden superchargers is owned by Atkins, and as far as I know they are still in busness. Isamu was down there (Atkins) not too long ago, and said he saw some of their SCs. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png

OKIERX-7 07-13-2002 05:04 AM

Nice setup. With all the money you've already spent on that NA engine. I'd be looking into a turbo, that you can run 4-5 psi and an EMS. I don't think you want to start over with stock turbo engine...



turbo oil pump?? I didn't really know there was any difference.

89 Rag 07-13-2002 08:55 PM

yeah, the impeller width on a turbo oil pump is larger than one for an N/A, at least thats what i was told, although Ive physically held both pumps and the difference is more than noticeable

horn4858 07-13-2002 09:45 PM

shitfire all it needs is to be driven https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/blink.png

89 Rag 07-13-2002 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by Shane.Trammell' date='Jul 12 2002, 01:53 PM
ok sell the na engine find a used turbo one and rebuild it. then you will need the trans and the drive shaft and wiring and rear end and pretty much everything that the car needs to move.

Hey, snapperhead go spank the penis and watch saved by the bell, you're wasting my time. the turbo project is next.

89 Rag 07-14-2002 12:43 AM


Originally Posted by ILUVMY88CABRIO' date='Jul 13 2002, 01:33 AM
[quote name='Rotaryman88' date='Jul 12 2002, 09:25 AM']Supercharger kits do not exist any longer for our cars, if you try to contact Camden or Paxton, you'll find out that they do not make supercharger kits any longer(bastards!)...

Camden superchargers is owned by Atkins, and as far as I know they are still in busness. Isamu was down there (Atkins) not too long ago, and said he saw some of their SCs. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/biggrin.png[/quote]

I checked out the site @ atkins and i think after my engine is broke in ill set up to run the SC. Thanks to all for the info



James

SoniX 07-14-2002 08:11 AM

aahrrggh, SC's damn rpm limiting small mid range power making complicated power leaching pieces of crap! That being said your engine sounds like it is more than capable of handling some sort of forced induction. the difficulty with SC's is that they are not really good for high revving engines, as in order to keep your normal redline, you have to gear it so that it doesn't make enough power until way up high, that is why they are used a lot on v8's since they don't rev high, the gearing can be set to make more power sooner, wheras with a turbo, not only do you not have the parasitic drain of running something else off the e-shaft (hurting you in the low end) but, you are not limiting your redline, which is good, because these engines make a lot of power higher up. turbos make use of otherwise wasted power (waste exhuast) and are easier to hook up (in theory, if you can do the plumbing)

89 Rag 07-15-2002 05:58 PM

Well ****, Ill put the damn turbo on it, just open my billfold and spend the god damn money for me. j/k Can someone direct me to a website where I might find and entire kit? I mean everything ill need to adapt N/A engine/89 chassis to turbo. No mickey mouse bullshit, If im gonna buy it i want all of it and i want quality parts too. Thanks



James


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