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1Revvin7 07-14-2003 06:43 PM

I noticed the intake temps were WAY too ******* hot, w/o the hood on I might as well have no ic... I believe I have a boost leak cuz the car does not seem to come on as the boost does... it feels like an n/a.... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif Either that or its tuned way too rich..

1Revvin7 07-14-2003 06:45 PM

I figured out I cannot print more than 10 pages to a txt file, and I cannot print the last page... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

1Revvin7 07-14-2003 06:55 PM

air filter right behind radiator, is a no no! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

Rotaryman88 07-14-2003 07:24 PM

Your probably tuned to rich...thats what my buddy's '91 SP T2 felt like until I finished playing with it..unfortunately, we've got a lot more to do...



..btw, i havent read ur datalogs yet...gimme a sec...

Rotaryman88 07-14-2003 07:28 PM

Doesn't this look a little off??





3700 -77 88 35 62 12.2 4.984 28 8 10 0:00:01.0

4020 -70 88 55 62 12.2 7.048 25 9 11 0:00:01.1

4020 -69 88 58 62 12.1 7.320 25 9 11 0:00:01.3

4140 -69 88 58 62 12.1 7.456 26 9 11 0:00:01.3

4260 -68 88 64 62 12.1 7.704 26 10 11 0:00:01.4

4460 -67 88 77 62 12.1 8.144 25 10 12 0:00:01.5

4640 -65 88 82 62 12.2 8.280 25 10 12 0:00:01.6

4760 -65 88 83 62 12.4 3.632 24 11 12 0:00:01.7



I just think its odd how at 3700RPM w/ the primaries still taking control there the inj ms was 4.9 but then it jumped to 7.04 at 4020 when the secondaries kicked on...then at 4760 it came back down..why would it go so high at first and then drop back down..is that normal??

1Revvin7 07-14-2003 07:38 PM

It bogs heavily with full throttle below 3k... I'm not sure tho..



I hate how it ******* doesn not tell psi and ****



Here the car idling, When i was looking at my laptop it said it was in vacuum the whole time, and at the end of page 2 @ 7200rpms it hit 1.1psi



But on this datalog it does not distinguish between psi and vacuum...

With the car running and it on online mode, and on the engine data page it does distinguish them..

1Revvin7 07-14-2003 07:47 PM

Can anyone tell me what the hell the Range and Bar are on the datalog?

1Revvin7 07-14-2003 07:51 PM

I see what you mean, its like when the secondaries come on its DUMPING fuel.... Wierd.... But I think the secondaries come on with positive pressure.. Not the stock comp setup where it comes online @ 3800rpms..

Rotaryman88 07-14-2003 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7' date='Jul 14 2003, 08:51 PM
I see what you mean, its like when the secondaries come on its DUMPING fuel.... Wierd.... But I think the secondaries come on with positive pressure.. Not the stock comp setup where it comes online @ 3800rpms..

Hmm..true dat...damn haltechs,lol...

1Revvin7 07-14-2003 11:37 PM

I am a jackass.. .Since I was changing/loading maps in offline mode, I had not loaded my map, and so in the main setup page it was set to 1bar map sensor. LOL



Here are some good ones, and I swear I got on the throttle... But since my intake temps are so high I didn't want to go for another run...

1Revvin7 07-14-2003 11:50 PM

https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683561.gif

turborotor 07-14-2003 11:57 PM

What's your settup?

1Revvin7 07-15-2003 02:53 AM

S5 t2 mazda remake

60-1 to4 hybrid

550 primaries

1600cc secondaries

aeromotive rrfpr - 35 @ idle..

Haltech e6k- 3bar map senor

racingbeat dp/silencer to stock n/a catback https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif

K&N on the turbo sucking hot ass air from radiator.. https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683664.gif

Stock IC





THe map I am using... Which is setup for a stock fuel pressure regulator/1600cc secondaries/hybrid turbo/stock s4 motor/3bar map sensor

Cosmo Donk 07-15-2003 09:16 AM

For one thing you need to get better grounds, wiring, or a new alternator because you are only at 11.9 which could cause some issues with spark and maybe even voltage to the fuel pump.



The datalog also doesn't differentiate between pressure and vacuum so I am assuming you got to about 3.5psi? I am looking at the bars and at the highest point, which would be the highest boost, I only see a 3.4. Yes no?



Also, your throttle doesn't look like it is calibrated properly.



You've got nothing on my temps on my old setup baby! Check out my dyno page and the datalog:) Well, my datalog is missing the PSI and the temps are in C:)



Also, as you realized, make sure you have your map loaded before you print things or view things or they will be wacky. Another thing is that I thought it would show a * for vacuum.



-Eric

j9fd3s 07-15-2003 10:53 AM

it seems like its running a lot of timing too? i might be wrong because i cant run much timing, with mine



4900 6.5 189 100 128 13.2 4.752 19 11 16 0:00:07.1

5020 6.7 189 100 129 13.2 4.800 19 11 16 0:00:07.2

5020 6.5 189 94 130 13.2 4.760 19 11 16 0:00:07.3

5080 6.5 189 89 130 13.2 4.752 19 11 16 0:00:07.4

5200 6.5 189 87 131 13.2 4.704 19 11 15 0:00:07.5

pengaru 07-15-2003 02:29 PM

in your later logs it doesnt seem to be getting into boost ever, are you sure you have the map sensor configured properly? double check the # on the sensor itself and compare it to the pages in the manual to see what kind of sensor it is (1-3 bar) then make sure it's setup right in the software.... if thats not set right it won't run right at all.

1Revvin7 07-15-2003 03:27 PM

When I change to a txt file it will not distinguish boost/vacuum...

I checked the wiring on the map sensor its right, I am seeing boost vacuum while running the car and on the datalogs... Just not the distinction when i change to txt file. And I just had a new datalog but the ******* disk was messed yup, I am only hitting 5 psi. Cosmo donk you are correct I was only hitting 3.4ish...

I have a main underdrive pulley, I am going to take that bitch off! I have a new alt/battery, big grounds etc.. once the revs get up its see 14v... I was making sure not to boost with low volatage https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/wink.png

I will recalibrate the throttle..

I do not have a fan shroud so they will get better. I also moved the filter to above the hood https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...DIR#>/cool.png HAHAH... I am not going for another run becuase after like 2 runs my intake temps get up to 134def F... I am going to back the advance down too. to probably 17deg...

1Revvin7 07-15-2003 03:45 PM

Do you guys have problems changing datalogs to txt files? Most of the time when i got to *print* them it the haltech program shuts down.. WTF?

1Revvin7 07-15-2003 03:52 PM

edited...

1Revvin7 07-15-2003 04:07 PM

I am going to redo my timing maps, I read a lot of good threads over at rx7club, and after talking on aim, I got the gist.. The maps I have right now are not conservative!

j9fd3s 07-15-2003 05:25 PM

mine likes about 6 degrees of advance @10psi, ihave no split so you should be able to go more (depending on the split you have), i'm also running like 20degrees in the vacuum part of the map you are acutally driving in



mike

1Revvin7 07-15-2003 08:03 PM

Here is a new one... I changed my timing maps.... Just tapers off from 17deg @ o psi to 10deg as I near 15psi... I am running like 12 degs split in the 0-2000rpm range, don't know how to get the other range(2k up)..

6 is where I am in boost, just look at the timing..

still pisses me off why it doesn't make a distinction form boost/vacuum when changed to txt file..

Nemesis 07-15-2003 08:13 PM

New map. Bah! I've been playing with graph sit out of your T4 map. The amount of data points makes it tough to view the graph in a realistic size. Anyway I'm just dicking around, I ended up using every ten data point starting at 62 and ending at 252... Not sure which values are useful to graph either... https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/bigok.gif

1Revvin7 07-16-2003 01:25 PM

I need Excel! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...O_DIR#>/11.gif

Cosmo Donk 07-16-2003 01:40 PM

Kazaa baby!!!https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...IR#>/smile.png I am only endorsing Kazaa as a legitimate file sharing service;)

1Revvin7 07-16-2003 06:31 PM

hahah


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