'88 GXL not starting, not flooded, have video
03-12-2006, 06:26 PM
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My recently purcahsed '88 GXL is not starting. It was running fine except with some random idle issues (BAC I think) and when I went to start it to go to lunch at work... it would not fire up.
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Turn the key, all electrics work (vents, lights, gauges, windows et al, full power).
Try to start. Loud electric (ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZ) (countinous sound)
Belts and fan move when starting atempt.
No smell of gas and no smoke. I have not been able to get the spark-plugs off to see if its flooded for sure, seeing my spark-plug ratchet adapter head is not long enough to go over the plug and reach the base to turn em out.
Engine start atempt video
Soud is coming from the driver side of the engien bay I believe.
Discription.
Turn the key, all electrics work (vents, lights, gauges, windows et al, full power).
Try to start. Loud electric (ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZ) (countinous sound)
Belts and fan move when starting atempt.
No smell of gas and no smoke. I have not been able to get the spark-plugs off to see if its flooded for sure, seeing my spark-plug ratchet adapter head is not long enough to go over the plug and reach the base to turn em out.
Engine start atempt video
Soud is coming from the driver side of the engien bay I believe.
03-12-2006, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Corbic' post='807522' date='Mar 12 2006, 04:26 PM
My recently purcahsed '88 GXL is not starting. It was running fine except with some random idle issues (BAC I think) and when I went to start it to go to lunch at work... it would not fire up.
Discription.
Turn the key, all electrics work (vents, lights, gauges, windows et al, full power).
Try to start. Loud electric (ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZ) (countinous sound)
Belts and fan move when starting atempt.
No smell of gas and no smoke. I have not been able to get the spark-plugs off to see if its flooded for sure, seeing my spark-plug ratchet adapter head is not long enough to go over the plug and reach the base to turn em out.
Engine start atempt video
Soud is coming from the driver side of the engien bay I believe.
03-12-2006, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by loudazzrx7' post='807539' date='Mar 12 2006, 09:34 PM
I am not clicking **** with you only having 1 post~
Thanks dood.
I'm on Club RX-7 and VWvortex.com, same screen name. Billion friggen posts for Vortex and most of TCL should know me. Also ever thought of getting Nod32 or something, then you don't have to worry about virusis.
03-13-2006, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DJs FC3s' post='807567' date='Mar 12 2006, 11:58 PM
For some reason, im not sure, but it looks/sounds like its turning over way to fast.
Well I went back again. (its pouring rain, freaken awsome). The engine is not cranking/turning. I think the gears on the starter are simply ground to nothing and the starter is just spinning.
I'm guessing, the engine flooded, the atempts to start then killed an readly ancient starter and now I need to unflood the engine and get a new starter. I have a lead on a used starter for $40 (good price?) and my question is, does this require some serious installations work (lift the engine or remove subframe pieces). I left the haynes in the RX-7 (pouring rain) and won't be able to get it back till late tommarow.
Also, I'm thinking of atempting to I guess "clutch start it". With the car in gear, and two friends pushing, try and start the car.... yes know? I know it works if your battery is dead.
03-13-2006, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Corbic' post='807582' date='Mar 13 2006, 01:26 AM
Well I went back again. (its pouring rain, freaken awsome). The engine is not cranking/turning. I think the gears on the starter are simply ground to nothing and the starter is just spinning.
I'm guessing, the engine flooded, the atempts to start then killed an readly ancient starter and now I need to unflood the engine and get a new starter. I have a lead on a used starter for $40 (good price?) and my question is, does this require some serious installations work (lift the engine or remove subframe pieces). I left the haynes in the RX-7 (pouring rain) and won't be able to get it back till late tommarow.
Also, I'm thinking of atempting to I guess "clutch start it". With the car in gear, and two friends pushing, try and start the car.... yes know? I know it works if your battery is dead.
The starter turns the motor (e-shaft), the motor turns the accessories. If your fan and accessories are spinning, and from the video they are, then the motor is turning. From the sound - it's spinning way too fast to have any compression.
03-15-2006, 10:42 PM
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started looks like its working fine in the video,sounds like its cranking kinda fast id suspect flooding.
if your starter now is dead, replacing it is very simple, well as simple as most RWD cars, jack up car get under it disconect it and its like 2 bolts voila!
yeah push start has allways worked for me, do it in 1st gear, and try and get it going kinda fast if u can ( if its flooded bad in 2nd it wont turn fast enouhg to make up for the lost compression from flooding)
if your starter now is dead, replacing it is very simple, well as simple as most RWD cars, jack up car get under it disconect it and its like 2 bolts voila!
yeah push start has allways worked for me, do it in 1st gear, and try and get it going kinda fast if u can ( if its flooded bad in 2nd it wont turn fast enouhg to make up for the lost compression from flooding)
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