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rxmiata2006 11-15-2006 08:56 PM

So first off I would like to say i am new to the hole forum thing so I apologize in advance for any mistakes I make "stupid nubies hu" https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



That said I have recently bought a 20b engine from a jc Cosmo and am transplanting it into a miata ya that right I said a miata

I've bean told there is something not quite right with me but it's bean done before but I now it will fit I WILL MAKE IT FIT.



I am at the point where I need some Wiring diagrams and pinouts for the 20d ecu i realize they are only in Japanese but I have a friend that can translate for me. if anybody has any or if they can point me in the right direction i would much appreciate it and well you would just rule!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/bowdown.gif

Turbo III 11-16-2006 06:19 PM


Originally Posted by rxmiata2006' post='845553' date='Nov 15 2006, 08:56 PM

So first off I would like to say i am new to the hole forum thing so I apologize in advance for any mistakes I make "stupid nubies hu" https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...1047683358.gif



That said I have recently bought a 20b engine from a jc Cosmo and am transplanting it into a miata ya that right I said a miata

I've bean told there is something not quite right with me but it's bean done before but I now it will fit I WILL MAKE IT FIT.



I am at the point where I need some Wiring diagrams and pinouts for the 20d ecu i realize they are only in Japanese but I have a friend that can translate for me. if anybody has any or if they can point me in the right direction i would much appreciate it and well you would just rule!! https://www.nopistons.com/forums/pub...#>/bowdown.gif



There are no available engine manuals outside of the Japanese dealer ranks. Plenty of people all over the world have tried to get them to no avail. You're on your own as we pretty much all are with these engines.

rxmiata2006 11-17-2006 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by Turbo III' post='845705' date='Nov 16 2006, 04:19 PM

There are no available engine manuals outside of the Japanese dealer ranks. Plenty of people all over the world have tried to get them to no avail. You're on your own as we pretty much all are with these engines.





Thanks anyway

I contacted a jdm inporter in my town who says he can get me a factory mazda shop manual form japan and he is willing to translate any parts i need "he is japanese" So if he can find me one i will let you guys know

Turbo III 11-17-2006 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by rxmiata2006' post='845763' date='Nov 17 2006, 09:49 AM

Thanks anyway

I contacted a jdm inporter in my town who says he can get me a factory mazda shop manual form japan and he is willing to translate any parts i need "he is japanese" So if he can find me one i will let you guys know



You can get the manuals, I have one in pdf format, but they never put the engine section into the manual, just all the rest of the JC Cosmo car items. This is the problem we all have.

kev-yorks 11-19-2006 03:02 AM

Here you go a couple of wiring diagrams for the 20b ecu qualities not the best but should help. If you could get them translated it'd be nice if you could post the translated version for all.

kev-yorks 11-19-2006 03:02 AM

Here you go a couple of wiring diagrams for the 20b ecu qualities not the best but should help. If you could get them translated it'd be nice if you could post the translated version for all.

kev-yorks 11-19-2006 03:05 AM

Here you go a couple of wiring diagrams for the 20b ecu qualities not the best but should help. If you could get them translated it'd be nice if you could post the translated version for all.





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rxmiata2006 11-19-2006 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by kev-yorks' post='845941' date='Nov 19 2006, 01:05 AM

Here you go a couple of wiring diagrams for the 20b ecu qualities not the best but should help. If you could get them translated it'd be nice if you could post the translated version for all.

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I will see what I can do it will take a couple of days but if he can translate them then i will post it back up for all he said he would so we will see

rxmiata2006 11-19-2006 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by rxmiata2006' post='845942' date='Nov 19 2006, 01:25 AM

I will see what I can do it will take a couple of days but if he can translate them then i will post it back up for all he said he would so we will see





Do you have the missing 1 or 2

herblenny 11-19-2006 07:24 AM

Im not trying to be an ass, but why would you want to know about wiring harness info??

First of all 20b cosmos were automatics?? Unless you want to make your converted Miata to also use auto tranny, I don't see the purpose of getting this info.



Most 20B's on the road today uses aftermarket standalone and that means you need to rewire the set up.. If you are worried about sensors... most of them are similar to FD sensors.. or you could figure them out fairly easily.

rxmiata2006 11-19-2006 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by herblenny' post='845949' date='Nov 19 2006, 05:24 AM

Im not trying to be an ass, but why would you want to know about wiring harness info??

First of all 20b cosmos were automatics?? Unless you want to make your converted Miata to also use auto tranny, I don't see the purpose of getting this info.



Most 20B's on the road today uses aftermarket standalone and that means you need to rewire the set up.. If you are worried about sensors... most of them are similar to FD sensors.. or you could figure them out fairly easily.



whell for now i want to run the car on the stock computer. It is posible to run the automatic computers with a standard transmission because the ecat controler is sepret. I have done this befor I have a 92 mazda b2600 4X4 that I put a 3.0L v6 out of a MPV, the computer was out of an auto van but i am running a standard trans made from half the truck trans and half the van trans so it can be done

j9fd3s 11-21-2006 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by rxmiata2006' post='845951' date='Nov 19 2006, 08:31 AM

whell for now i want to run the car on the stock computer. It is posible to run the automatic computers with a standard transmission because the ecat controler is sepret. I have done this befor I have a 92 mazda b2600 4X4 that I put a 3.0L v6 out of a MPV, the computer was out of an auto van but i am running a standard trans made from half the truck trans and half the van trans so it can be done



cosmo is similar to that. just due to the way the car got wired up, you basically need the dash harness to complete this swap. you also need the coils and ignitors (nothing else in the world works like the cosmo ignition).....

herblenny 11-21-2006 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='846196' date='Nov 21 2006, 09:54 AM

cosmo is similar to that. just due to the way the car got wired up, you basically need the dash harness to complete this swap. you also need the coils and ignitors (nothing else in the world works like the cosmo ignition).....



Do you think Cosmo coils and ignitors are better than LS1 or FD??

j9fd3s 11-21-2006 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by herblenny' post='846215' date='Nov 21 2006, 12:45 PM

Do you think Cosmo coils and ignitors are better than LS1 or FD??



they will only work with the factory ecu.... it uses a weird crack smoking trigger and 3 toggle setup, kinda like the fc trailing, but 2 more

rxmiata2006 11-25-2006 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by j9fd3s' post='846196' date='Nov 21 2006, 09:54 AM

cosmo is similar to that. just due to the way the car got wired up, you basically need the dash harness to complete this swap. you also need the coils and ignitors (nothing else in the world works like the cosmo ignition).....





I do have the hole dash harness caus i bought the engine in a front clip and thanks to Kev-yorks with the wiring diagrams and a japnese friend who is translating some of the parts i cant translate, the harnis is almost done i am down to only like 20 random wires



PS when all of the diagrams are translated i will email them to anyone who wants them

Terraleone 11-25-2006 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by kev-yorks' post='845941' date='Nov 19 2006, 04:05 AM

Here you go a couple of wiring diagrams for the 20b ecu qualities not the best but should help. If you could get them translated it'd be nice if you could post the translated version for all.

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Done one. Can't see about 2 labels clear enough to translate.

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Terraleone 11-25-2006 11:50 PM


Originally Posted by rxmiata2006' post='845942' date='Nov 19 2006, 04:25 AM

I will see what I can do it will take a couple of days but if he can translate them then i will post it back up for all he said he would so we will see



Done two. Did not label one or two again due to resolution.

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Terraleone 11-25-2006 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by Terraleone' post='846686' date='Nov 26 2006, 12:50 AM

Done two. Did not label one or two again due to resolution.

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Waiting for pages B-2a, B-2d and B-3.

rxmiata2006 11-26-2006 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by Terraleone' post='846687' date='Nov 25 2006, 09:58 PM

Waiting for pages B-2a, B-2d and B-3.





i have the other pages if you need them

RX-Jesus 11-26-2006 10:31 AM

Hi, Turbo III



is it possible to you to poast the Cosmo shop manual? or email to me....?



thx in advance!

Terraleone 11-26-2006 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by Terraleone' post='846685' date='Nov 26 2006, 12:49 AM

Done one. Can't see about 2 labels clear enough to translate.

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I made a mistake in one of the translations. The electric clutch is connected to a relay via blue red wire, not green red. My bad. It's edited and posted.



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RX-Jesus 03-17-2007 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by rxmiata2006' post='846691' date='Nov 26 2006, 02:04 AM

i have the other pages if you need them





can you post the third part of the wiring ?



thx in advance


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